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Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by pradn on Friday August 02, 2024 @05:06PM (#41142679)
The words "friend" (everyone knows how shallow a "Facebook friend" is), "share" ("ride-sharing" instead of calling a taxi), and "community" (is the entire customer base of Facebook really a community?) have been shorn of their sociable, human meanings. It's as if a corporation were mining the good will humans have accreted to those words over millenia.

Sometimes there are communities in these spaces - NUMTOTs or small Discord servers. Other times its just marketing foo foo.

Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by vinnski on Friday August 02, 2024 @10:08PM (#41144190)
Seems like almost every community nowadays has to have their own Discord server or private Facebook group. Often a deal-breaker for the more privacy-conscious people, unfortunately
Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by DavidPiper on Friday August 02, 2024 @11:32PM (#41144486)
My initial reaction to your comment was that privacy-consciousness has always been a potential deal-breaker for social engagement - which I think is true, building connection is an inherently vulnerable activity - but it's interesting how the word "privacy" means something very different on- and off-line.

We haven't ever lived in a world where not being "privacy-conscious" in a social setting could mean any of the following if that privacy is compromised by a corporation:

- Someone constructed a whole fake online presence using my data

- Someone used generative AI to make fake photos and videos of me doing things

- Someone has access to my bank accounts and all of my personal communications

- ...

We used to think of privacy as something that exists between people. Now we think of it as something that is mediated by corporations.

Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by aleph_minus_one on Saturday August 03, 2024 @06:02PM (#41149600)
> We used to think of privacy as something that exists between people. Now we think of it as something that is mediated by corporations.

I have never heard of the second interpretation. The second sentence should in my opinion rather be: "Now we think of it as something that is violated by corporations."

Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by Aeolun on Saturday August 03, 2024 @11:21AM (#41147091)
> Often a deal-breaker for the more privacy-conscious people, unfortunately

You can’t have conversation in your community without them being public either. Saying anything in discord is just as public as on the middle of a busy shopping street.

Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by cpburns2009 on Saturday August 03, 2024 @11:59AM (#41147348)
Typically in public you don't have an irrevocable transcript of every word spoken. The predominace of electric communication and its natural surveillance has eliminated the ephemeral nature of conversation.
Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by Aeolun on Sunday August 04, 2024 @07:54AM (#41152924)
To some extend. But some must be pretty dedicated to find something you said even several days ago in a public discord. Coupled with the low stakes communication generally going on there it seems unlikely to me anyone would ever bother.
Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by AbstractH24 on Saturday August 03, 2024 @02:43PM (#41148383)
I'm a contractor working on the GTM side of a well a respected company with a very active slack public community. And let's just say all the activity in slack is piped into their data lake.
Re:The Upstream Cause of the Youth Mental Health Crisis Is t... by tempodox on Saturday August 03, 2024 @11:24AM (#41147114)
You're confusing facebook's customers with their users. Facebook's customers are companies that want to advertise.