Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by isantop on Sunday July 21, 2024 @11:28AM
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The fundamental difference here is that this isn't a court of law deciding justice, it's a private organization deciding who is allowed to participate and under what grounds someone should be barred from the same. Transparency in this case extends to making it known that someone is banned from formal participation, who made this decision, and under what grounds the decision was made. We have that in this case; there was a CoC violation, potentially of a sensitive nature, and discretion is therefore warranted.
Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by cmxch on Sunday July 21, 2024 @02:45PM
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Redefining transparency to a perfunctory level does nothing but reinforce the idea that it is a star chamber.
Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by Exolon on Monday July 22, 2024 @04:04PM
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"Star chamber" is a fabulous term that would seem to describe the situation quite well. Thanks, added to my internal dictionary!
Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by michaelmrose on Sunday July 21, 2024 @02:57PM
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What reason do we have to trust that it isn't a arbitrary decision concerning petty clashes of personality? We are talking about the organization that hired as its head a literal criminal scam artist.
Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by benj111 on Monday July 22, 2024 @05:50AM
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That like saying that some software that a company throws over the wall every so often is free software. It may be in the literal sense but it misses the point.
Transparency isn't simply knowing that a thing happened. Transparency is knowing why it happened, what steps were taken.
Is this guy a rapist? Transparency means he won't get employed at a women's refuge? Did the foundation make a mistake? Transparency can hold them accountable and make sure the correct fix is made.
And at the risk of sounding like Richard Stallman. Since when did we start treating the gnome foundation as just a 'private organisation'? If anyone knows about the benefits of open collaboration and sharing, it should be them.
Re:Sonny Piers was removed from the GNOME Foundation board
by isantop on Monday July 22, 2024 @02:45AM
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Saying anyone was removed "no-questions-asked" is not correct. The board asked many questions over the course of its investigation into the matter. And they just today held an annual general meeting of the entire foundation at which pubic comment or questions were accepted.
And?
On the other hand, allowing people to be removed "no-questions-asked" and accepting zero transparency is dictatorial.
There's a reason why courts proceedings are usually public: there cannot be justice without transparency. Otherwise it's an easy playbook to avoid accountability.