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Saying anyone was removed "no-questions-asked" is not correct. The board asked many questions over the course of its investigation into the matter. And they just today held an annual general meeting of the entire foundation at which pubic comment or questions were accepted.
If you use GNOME, you have inherent trust in that administration as the governing body for the software on your computer. Outside of explicitly checking every line of code and then compiling yourself, there's no way to actually validate what you're truly running on your computer other than that trust.
If you don't use GNOME, why is this interesting to you anyway?
Exactly. The only thing which might prevent Sonny from explaining the situation is the pending resolutions, which means that no party can comment on the ongoing situation. Realistically we don't know what's going on, and because it's all ongoing it's not actually appropriate for us to know one way or the other. After it's been settled, any party can make a comment, but still none are obliged to (and I'd caution that drawing conclusions based on only one source is inherently biased and unreliable)
Suggesting that the aggrieved party is fictional is, indeed, criminal libel.
The fundamental difference here is that this isn't a court of law deciding justice, it's a private organization deciding who is allowed to participate and under what grounds someone should be barred from the same. Transparency in this case extends to making it known that someone is banned from formal participation, who made this decision, and under what grounds the decision was made. We have that in this case; there was a CoC violation, potentially of a sensitive nature, and discretion is therefore warranted.
CoC violations — particularly ones egregious enough to warrant removal from a project — often involve topics of a highly sensitive nature regarding events which could potentially reveal the identity of the victim party, which is entirely not appropriate. While I completely understand the frustration around the current lack of communication regarding this incident, it's fully appropriate given the situation at hand and those party to the proceedings are the only ones at liberty to discuss what happened.
They also semi-affected #system76. I still have ops in the ACL, but there was a new ## opened (which is invite-only) and they added themselves to the ACL.
The laptop mentioned requires a 200W charger (dedicated GPU, high-end CPU). This is double what the USB PD specs allow.
Hard to do USBPD with the Oryx because it's hard to deliver 200W over USBPD (Which has a maximum standardized power delivery of 100W)
If we minded, it wouldn't be open source. ;)
System76 employee/Pop dev here
> There is already Apple if people want to buy a computer like an Apple.
100%. If what you want is an Apple computer, I promise we won't be offended if you buy an Apple computer.
Aesthetics are subjective. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FWIW I work on Pop OS for System76 and using the "proper" name doesn't really matter to us. I don't even use it myself, except when I'm writing technical, first-party information/documentation that needs to be part of our cohesive brand. In colloquial use, just call it Pop.
The very first concepts of Pop were like this, but since then the OS has grown to be much more complicated than that. There are some fundamental system configuration changes that make that a very difficult (if not impossible) task right now. It would be like converting a Debian system into Ubuntu.
You can modify your keyboard shortcuts in Settings > Keyboard Shortcuts.
Pop_OS Dev here.
> Does Pop inherit Ubuntus snapification with 20.04?
Not out of the box. You can manually install snapd and use snaps on Pop, but all of the software we ship is Apt packaged, and Flatpak/Flathub are supported out of the box. Additionally, some apt packages which install snaps in Ubuntu (like Chromium) install the apt version of the application in Pop.
> Do they release newer kernels for the LTS releases like Canonical does with Ubuntu LTS?
Yes, we track the latest Ubuntu kernel and ensure that the newest one available is installed. Our kernel is usually a bit newer than Ubuntu's (due to our focus on System76 hardware which, being new, often requires a newer kernel for all hardware features to work correctly). Obviously the newer kernels also have benefit beyond just S76 hardware, and Pop is in no way restricted from running on non-System76 machines.
> Do they pack ZFS in the kernel like Ubuntu?
Yes.
You place a lot of faith on the ability of US-based companies to resist control by the US Government.
Compromising the PCBA is not reasonable attack, if you trust the company you're buying the hardware from. Their engineers will review the delivered hardware and ensure that the delivered design is identical to the one ordered. Realistically, the kind of bad actor this is marketed to prevent have no trouble getting into a chip fab in China (where the chips going onto the PCBA are produced) and inserting hardware backdoors there, which couldn't necessarily be detected by the engineers.
Accepting external contributions is not a requirement of either Open Source or Free Software, and enforcing such a requirement is explicitly contra to the spirit of Free Software. The entire movement is about freedom, which includes the freedom not to accept downstream code.
Thats only like 3mph max...
The first two trips are nearly half a decade apart...
I need x-much gas to go 100 km... Seems pretty intuitive to me.
The kind of people who are worried about the image driving a truck will project upon them simply don't buy trucks. They'd rather buy a model Y or a Model X anyway.
Careful with your anecdotes.
To say nothing of Toyota, Honda, Mazda, many German manufacturers... amirite?
There's nothing functional about that. The sharp edges and flat front will be horrific for aerodynamics.
> What's stopping Ubuntu from just taking back the parts of Pop!_OS they want?
Nothing. Everything we create here at System76 is open source, either GPL or some form of permissive license.
(Edit: To be clear, I'm just answering your rhetorical question, not insinuating anything about the tone of your post for sure.)
Beauty is subjective. And luckily, that's not really a perspective you're often to encounter when using a laptop in the real world.
IMO, the XPS laptops don't really look a ton different when viewed from that angle.
System76 developer here. We do offer several AMD option on our Thelio line (and they're less expensive than the corresponding Intel options, generally speaking).