Turks are a very big community (I guess more than 20 Million counting all generations) in Germany with a lot of not well adapted folk.
In my 2500 souls german home village live people from more than 40 nations. I never heard negative comments about them from one of the natives. But the shithole you live in of course may vary.
> Continental Europeans have very bad experiences with British tourists
Funnily enough I've never been anywhere where our trashy British tourists go (why would I?). So actually I don't know what they're like, but I've heard very bad things. I've also heard even worse things about the Dutch, though.
> And I am quite sure I get support from around a 100 Million dead guys
Well whoever they are that you're talking about, they are dead, so I am not sure they're in a position to support you at all. Having said that, I wonder what the all the dead Europeans and Jews murdered by Germans would think of Germany.
> But the shithole you live in of course may vary
I live and work in Hamburg.
>Turks are a very big community (I guess more than 20 Million counting all generations) in Germany with a lot of not well adapted folk.
Yes, because of how the majority ethnic German population treated them and continues to treat them. It's a very racist country. That's what living and working in Germany and falling in love with a Turkish German taught me. Thank you for the cultural exchange.
‘Cliched’: Turkish-Germans react as president brings kebab on Istanbul trip
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/cliched-turkis...
(Not trying to make a point, I just found the controversy kind of funny.)
You are calling me xenophobic and second the point I made? Are you mentally ill?
And btw, never heard anything worse or even comparable about the Dutch.
And btw 2, never about Scots, either.
> Well whoever they are that you're talking about, they are dead,
I guess you know very well who they are. The people killed in India by the British colonialism, according to the study of an US american institute. And yes, other monkeys are murderish assholes, too. Especially when the uniformism of the nation state mindset kicks in.
And you should discuss your argument that the dead cannot give support with the Jews.
> That's what living and working in Germany and falling in love with a Turkish German taught me.
I doubt your objectivism.
Reader: never let anyone tell you Germans aren't nationalistic. They are as nationalistic as anyone, they are simply more subtle about it and eschew overt symbolism.
>I doubt your objectivism.
Yes, to truly understand the racism of Germany, I have to witness someone who I do not give a shit about being victimised. If I care about that person, then it doesn't count and I am not allowed to form an opinion. Lol.
Is that really necessary? Also I'll second it, your comments are objectively xenophobic.
> never about Scots, either
Considering there are 10x less of them not particularly suprising...
> And yes, other monkeys are murderish assholes, too
Germans specifically (the British never even came close historically...). Or you won't say it?
No. Different from most apes, I have a clear picture of the positive and negative (and neutral) sides of the ethnics I know. Undisturbed by mental illnesses like racism and especially political correctness. Facts cannot be xenophobic.
> Germans specifically
IIRC, in WW2 around 60 Million died. That is less than the around 100 Million "murdered" Indians. But in less time, so the death rate is higher. Choose your metrics.
I have a funny story, my grandfather actually was German and fought for the Nazi German Empire in WW2 and moved to the UK afterwards. He used to cry about how much worse the English were and how unfair it all is that the Nazi German Empire (your Nazi ancestors) is vilified compared to the English. Will you bring up the Boer War now? He used to do that too. Anyway it's all very on brand for a German to give off pretty familiar national socialist vibes. Takes me right back to my childhood trying to navigate interactions with that autistic old man :')
Funnily enough, they do say that German society is like one where everyone is autistic. It all adds up!
Scots _are_ Brits.
Integration is hard - I recently went to an intergration event at a local church - almost no Germans there - and also the different foreign communities didn't really interact with each other. E.g. there's severe hatered between the different groups of Turkish people.
I think there are a lot of outsiders in German society - ethnic integration is hard. Maybe Special interest groups - like Computer Meetups or Maker-Spaces can help with Integration into a new Clan?!
Even though the Austrian girl had heavy accent and technically being the migrant, her "germanic" name and white face gave her access to the most basic thing:housing; something a German born Iranian (studying engineering, well educated and mannered), will struggle to have.
Similar discrimination exist in Japan, where I lived. All my European complain about how they struggle getting apartments because landlord silently decline based on their foreigner name. One of the landlord she met, an old lady, even explicitly said she was happy "a German" applied and she felt she would take care of the place better.
Very few of them even want to BELIEVE the above Austrian girls story. The common reply is always questioning the story. Maybe some other reason, it's an anecdote, how can she be sure. (when the Austrian girl tell her German friends same questioning occur)
At the core of it the unfriendliness of northern Europe + Germany is a double punch: you're often silently discriminated, and when you try to voice it, you're often gaslighted.
At least in USA or other English speaking places those voices are allowed to be voiced, without condemnation (people will debate it, but we won't even get there for places like Germany or Sweden )
Some Germans may like to think of Germany as a country of immigrants, but it just isn't, regardless of how many live here.
I think overall Germans, deep down, don't really want us here. We are here to pay for the pension bill—that's literally it. But since we are here, they want us to completely assimilate and give up everything about yourself that came from our homelands. There is no respect nor appreciation for any external culture, so your "differences" have negative value, because you have to Be German.
I dated a third generation Turkish German for 2 years whilst I lived here and she faced fairly casual racism from white Germans with a regularity that would be unthinkable in the UK. She was often getting complimented on how good her German (it's her mother tongue) was or asked about what country she came from (she was born and raised in Germany). It's a racist country. Don't believe the PR about how liberal Germany is—it's liberal if you're white and German.
And I say all this as a white Western European. It's going to be so much harder for the average Syrian or Afghan.