> It’s not your machine, it’s your employer’s machine.

Agreed. I'm fine with this, as long as the employer also accepts that I will never use a personal device for work, that I will never use a minute of personal time for work, and that my productivity is significantly affected by working on devices and systems provided and configured by the employer. This knife cuts both ways.

If only that were possible. Luckily for my employer, I end up thinking about problems to be solved during my off hours like when I'm sleeping and in the shower. Then again, I also think about non-work life problems sitting at my desk when I'm supposed to be working, so (hopefully) it evens out.

I don't think it's possible either. But the moment my employer forces me to install a surveillance rootkit on the machine I use for work—regardless of who owns the machine—any trust that existed in the relationship is broken. And trust is paramount, even in professional settings.

Setting aside the question whether these security tools are effective at their stated goal, what does this have to do with trust at all? Does the existence of a bank vault break the trust between the bank and the tellers? What is the mechanism that would prevent your computer from getting infected by a 0-day if only your employer trusted you?

> Does the existence of a bank vault break the trust between the bank and the tellers?

That's a strange analogy, since the vault is meant to safeguard customer assets from the public, not from bank employees. Besides, the vault doesn't make the teller's job more difficult.

> What is the mechanism that would prevent your computer from getting infected by a 0-day if only your employer trusted you?

There isn't one. What my employer does is trust that I take care of their assets and follow good security practices to the best of my abilities. Making me install monitoring software is an explicit admission that they don't trust me to do this, and with that they also break my trust in them.

You mean like AV software is meant to safeguard the computer from malware? I'm sure banks have a lot of annoying security related processes that make teller's job more difficult.

If you don't already have an anti virus on your work machine, you're in a extremely small minority. As a consultant with projects that go about a week, I've experienced the onboarding process of over a hundred orgs first hand. They almost all hand out a Windows laptop, and every single Windows laptop had an AV on it. It's considered negligent not to have some AV solution in the corporate world. And these days, almost all the fancy AVs live in the kernel.

I don't doubt that to be the case, but I'm happy to not work in corporate environments (anymore...). :)

My experience is that in these workplaces where EDR is enforced on all devices used for work, your hypothetical is true (i.e. you are not expected to work on devices not provided by your employer - on the contrary, that is most likely forbidden).