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Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by cqqxo4zV46cp on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @06:16AM (#40975096)
Yep. As always, “how couldn’t they predict that HN would be upset!” implies that Mozilla is under some illusion that HN is anything other than a bunch of nerds expelling hot air.

It’s quite narcissistic how so many comments here are written with the premise that Mozilla is concerned with the author’s desires, and those of those that agree with them, above all others.

There’s also a lot of hubris implied in the assumption that there aren’t a large number of people that are just coming along for the rage-fest ride, and won’t care about this in 6 months.

Nobody here is special.

Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by latexr on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @06:31AM (#40975189)
That is incredibly reductive and entirely misses the scope of the issue. It isn’t just HN. In case you’ve missed it, the article is not an HN page but a separate website. The comment I replied to linked to Reddit. It’s all over Mastodon. I’ve seen other blogs and publications commenting on it too.

Yes, of course a large number of people won’t talk about this in six weeks, let alone six months. On the other hand you’ll have ex-hardcore fans complaining about it for over six years. I still see people talking about the Mr Robot debacle and the other crap Mozilla has pulled to this day. If anything, Mozilla is more susceptible to this backlash than the average tech company. Regular computer users don’t give a rat’s ass about Firefox. The people Mozilla needs to convince are exactly the ones they keep alienating.

Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by jeltz on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @06:31AM (#40975190)
They might be correct but this thinking is also how Mozilla lost most of their German market share due to Cliqz. They assumed people would not care but they did. Also this is trending on /r/all on Reddit right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1e45mih/firef...

Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by ahartmetz on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @06:33AM (#40975205)
This bunch of nerds creates software, including for the web, and sometimes there's an option to test it on Firefox or not. Nerds also recommend browsers to friends and family.

HN is also not the only bunch of nerds like that.

Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by pdpi on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @06:51AM (#40975302)
If this were, say, Adobe, I’d agree with you. HN as a community doesn’t have much clout in the design or video space.

This is Mozilla we’re talking about, though. HN is exactly the sort of audience they need on their side. That bunch of nerds is the same group they relied upon to evangelise for them during the IE era.

Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by account42 on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @11:14AM (#40977348)
Mozilla might just have decided that that's no longer the case: that their funding from Google does not depend on nerds advocating for the browser. That is either they came to the conclusion that Google will continue to fund them even if the market share continues to fall or they have decided that the end is inevitable and are just trying to milk the cow for all that she's got.
Re:For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default by closewith on Tuesday July 16, 2024 @08:51AM (#40976036)
This comment shows such a lack of context of the history of Firefox that I wonder if it's trolling?

Firefox exists and reached its peak because of the people that idealogically cared about the Web and interoperable,security, privacy, etc who contributed to and advocated for Firefox.