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Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by BadHumans on Friday July 12, 2024 @03:35PM (#40948675)
IRC leaking IP is the reason I never liked using IRC. The complaint about Discord being oriented towards games and memes is silly to me. I'm in Discord channels that have nothing to do with games.
Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by floren on Friday July 12, 2024 @04:02PM (#40948882)
You can configure some IRC servers to mask all IPs by default, for instance the Ergo IRCv3 server does so automatically: https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#...
Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by tredre3 on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:00PM (#40949841)
Cloaking should be opt out, not opt in. Because even if you go through the process of begging for a hostname cloak, there are many scenarios where the cloak is temporarily not applied (netsplits, or if NS lags and your identify happens after joining your channels) and oops the IP leaks. This is unacceptable. It should default to privacy.

The fact that server operators of many (all?) networks refuse to enable cloaking by default just shows that IRC has a very different culture than what modern users have come to expect.

In my mind there is no reason for cloaking to not be enabled other than "it's always been that way and I like seeing ISP hostnames when people join!".

Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by aunderscored on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:34PM (#40950078)
Libera has cloaks by default now, as for nickserv lagging, use sasl, the tool built for this that explicitly completed before your connection to the server is finalized.
Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by prophesi on Friday July 12, 2024 @05:23PM (#40949581)
I use The Lounge on a VPS to solve that problem. It's a good practice in opsec instead of giving up entirely and sending it all solely to Discord.

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/12926016807575...

I can't escape Discord because of the network effect, but this recently rolled out in one of the servers I'm in and it can't even be turned off at the server level. Only at the individual level. Servers can also enforce phone verification. And at the end of the day, getting someone to click a link you control to see their IP is simple enough on any platform.

Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by BadHumans on Saturday July 13, 2024 @09:20AM (#40953969)
This just seems like a lot of work when the reason Discord won was ease of use.
Re:Discord vs. IRC Rough Notes by prophesi on Monday July 15, 2024 @10:28AM (#40968179)
For sure! You could use something like IRCCloud to achieve the same thing, but as a tinkerer I wanted a solution that lets me own my data and is easier to use than an IRC bouncer. And I can provision new accounts to friends/family.

But only my software dev friends took on that offer since Freenode/Libera is really the only reason to use IRC in 2024, and their channels are generally all programming-focused.