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Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by surgical_fire on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:09AM (#40944181)
> Certainly not true for the company where I work

In the 2 decades I have worked as a Software Engineer, I met numerous people, in numerous different companies, that said those words, exactly.

All of them were eventually proven wrong. No exceptions.

Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by ernst_klim on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:33AM (#40944283)
> All of them were eventually proven wrong. No exceptions.

I live and work in EU (and lived in other places) and I'm pretty sure corporate culture in EU, Japan, Russia is very different from that. There are pros- and cons- sure, but this easy-in/easy-out seems like a very US/Anglophone thing from my POV.

Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by surgical_fire on Friday July 12, 2024 @07:32AM (#40944587)
> I live and work in EU

What a coincidence. Me too :)

Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by Aeolun on Friday July 12, 2024 @07:18AM (#40944513)
I mean, it’s still possible to be fired, it’s just _a lot_ harder. The relationship between employer and employee doesn’t seem nearly as hostile either.
Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by mobiuscog on Friday July 12, 2024 @11:26AM (#40946446)
I'm presuming they meant 'made redundant' rather than 'fired'.

The former is still fairly easy, and just has some process involved, the latter much harder unless gross misconduct can be demonstrated.

It's absolutely true the the UK/EU/etc. have much better rights than the US in this regard, but perhaps the higher pay in the US (at least in tech) pays for that.

Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by dlahoda on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:36AM (#40944305)
Eastern block is same as Anglophone.
Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by arrrtem on Friday July 12, 2024 @09:40AM (#40945480)
lol, you can be fired in a minute in Russia if you're not a CEO's son
Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by throwaway7ahgb on Friday July 12, 2024 @07:52AM (#40944684)
Isn't that just entropy? Nothing can stay forever.

I'd be interesting to see over long periods of time and many people who leave first, the employee quitting or employer firing/laying-off.

My anecdotes tell me more people leave than get fired, especially the ones with options.

Re:As an Employee, You Are Disposable (2023) by palata on Friday July 12, 2024 @08:33AM (#40944940)
> My anecdotes tell me more people leave than get fired, especially the ones with options.

Sure, but that's not the original point. The original point is that the company won't make you any favour if they get a better deal by firing you. So you should do the same and leave if you find a better deal somewhere else.