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Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by jmclnx on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:16PM (#40918484)
This does not surprise me, I doubt the impact is great right now, but in 5 or 10 years I tend to think it will be. To dispose of regular batteries, like AA, you are suppose to drop them off to a recycle place. EV Batteries are much larger and contain more heavy metals.

Really, we (people) are doing all we can to avoid doing anything real about Climate Change. Many do something, but not to the point were it lessens how you live.

We really need to push Mass Transit, Walking, Bicycling and other forms of transport. The only real draw back is the loss of some convenience. But 140 years ago, people lived OK without Autos.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by CalRobert on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:24PM (#40918626)
It's actually a better way to live.

I don't know how to express the freedom and joy that comes from having your kid say "I'm biking to my friend's house!" instead of "Can you drive me to my friend's house?".

Not to mention that I made a lot of my current friends by just meeting them while walking around town.

And cities designed for cars aren't even easier to get around, because cars may be ten times faster than walking, but once you add all the parking, roads, shoulders, etc. to make it easier to drive, everything is ten times farther apart.

I really wish it were easier to convey that a low-car life is a much higher quality of life.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by lovethevoid on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:26PM (#40918642)
It’s illegal to dispose of your EV battery in such a way that it ends up in landfill. At least in the EU. It’s also very dumb as companies would me missing out on a lot of money by processing those batteries for their precious components.

Most of the lithium ion waste comes from consumer electronics still, not EV. Things like laptops and phones being tossed, instead of taken to appropriate recycling facilities. I think this will change in time as it becomes more normalized to do so, maybe even a dedicated “electronics collection pickup” recycling program.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by soco on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @02:18PM (#40919187)
Here in Switzerland all shops selling electronics must also take back any used electronics you might bring to them. A smaller shop (of which there are less and less) might be more reluctant to take your scrap but any chain won't ask any questions. So there is a possibility, if only people would also use it enough...
Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by FredFS456 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:23PM (#40918611)
I have never owned a car (lived in urban areas all my adult life) and I find that when I visit my parents in their suburban home, everything is less convenient when driving is involved.
Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by mtalantikite on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:45PM (#40918870)
Part of me lives in a walk-able city because I'm incapable of buying everything I need to make dinner in one go at a grocery store. I inevitably have to run down the block to grab some random thing I didn't realize we were out of. Only slightly kidding -- maybe I'd learn if it took 15 minutes in a car instead of 45 seconds on foot though.
Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by silver_silver on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:35PM (#40918751)
> We really need to push Mass Transit, Walking, Bicycling and other forms of transport. The only real draw back is the loss of some convenience. But 140 years ago, people lived OK without Autos.

It’s the norm for most young/lower income people in a lot of Europe’s urban areas, although cars are still ubiquitous. Most people with the means will opt for a car because of that convenience though. Point being it’s absolutely possible for cars to become a luxury.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by chung8123 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @02:23PM (#40919237)
I think we need to push them in smart ways. Just pushing mass transit, walking, or biking on people is met with an opposite reaction. But if we targeted specific use cases we could probably build it like a snowball.

Transit is plagued with having to serve everyone so it serves no one issue.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by adrianN on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @03:14PM (#40919765)
Transit serves billions of people all over the world.
Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by card_zero on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:40PM (#40918806)
> We really need to push Mass Transit,

I hope we get to take turns at least.

Re:Electric Vehicle Batteries Surprising New Source of 'Fore... by EricE on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:38PM (#40918785)
140 years ago very few people went more than 40 miles from where they were born too :p