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Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by jmcqk6 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:27PM (#40917976)
This is very true. Both giving and receiving attention to another human being is really important for the development of emotionally healthy connections. It is the foundation of authentic connection. This is why we've seen an epidemic of loneliness rise in step with our greater distractedness.

Giving and receiving attention is also a skill. You can get better at it.

Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:37PM (#40918067)
It is a skill, for sure. I still feel like I suck at it in many ways. But recognizing it is the first step to doing better. And pausing what you're doing when someone talks to you is a relatively easy thing to do.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by noxer on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @11:07PM (#40923339)
The "epidemic of loneliness" (in the western world) is a made up thing by the media. There is no actual data to support it, there is some data that shows the opposite.

There is some data that suggest very old people are more lonely but that might just be became on average they are much longer alive and independent after their partner dies compare to past generations.

Here is a short ~5min video about the topic https://youtu.be/rVsKWQp-sq4

Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pimlottc on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:32PM (#40918024)
For people, in person, this is true. But don't make this mistake for apps and websites. Just because you've managed to hook users with skinner box dopamine hits doesn't mean they love you.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by JohnFen on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:54PM (#40918243)
Love and be loved by people, not by machines (or corporations, which are just machines). Machines can never love you.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by moffkalast on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:18PM (#40918534)
People are machines though. And dogs aren't people.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @02:02PM (#40919045)
Just because you say "People are machines though" without blinking, doesn't make it true :-) Dogs rule; but yeah they aren't people.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by JohnFen on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @03:10PM (#40919709)
People aren't machines, true, but dogs are very nearly people!
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:45PM (#40918155)
Goes without saying, yet worth pointing out.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by moffkalast on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:43PM (#40918133)
Attention is all you need?
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by revx on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:55PM (#40918247)
All You Need Is Love :)
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by octobereleven on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:51PM (#40918212)
Love is an action. And attention is one of those actions.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:54PM (#40918962)
Attention is fuel to/the source of action :)
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by tamimio on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:55PM (#40918245)
Proof of love or proof of manipulation. Some twisted people pay attention to the details about you to know how to manipulate you, giving you an illusion of love or “love bombing” to get their way with you. Differentiating between the two isn’t easy, but the latter usually doesn’t last long, and sooner or later, you start picking up on other toxic signs. So don’t fall in love quickly!
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by campak on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @12:59PM (#40918296)
Amen. Been trying to slow down, put my phone down, and look directly at my baby and be present with him as he plays and wants to share toys with dada
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:56PM (#40918980)
Awesome to hear. I remember reading something a while back, saying that toddlers were developing language much slower when people use their phones around them. Because toddlers need a lot of interactions.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by mistermann on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:05PM (#40918361)
Seize the opportunity buddy, a decade can vanish just like that.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by OutOfHere on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:03PM (#40918329)
It is a very powerful observation. Extending from it, when you find mutual positive attention with someone, don't take it for granted. Conversely, if someone doesn't give you positive attention, unless they are just shy, drop them from your consideration. If they are shy, slow down the pace with them, but keep the interaction channel open, and see if they come back to you.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by onehair on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @02:31PM (#40919318)
On the messenger type apps, on feed type apps, on most apps, I disable sound for notifications. The only sound my phone makes is the phone's ringtone when someone is calling.

I also put my phone face down when I'm in a conversation or when I'm in an activity when a child. In the latter I usually leave the phone away from me.

I find it helps a lot in keeping my attention where it's worth putting.

Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by busmark_w_nika on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @04:22PM (#40920675)
I read your newsletter. I will repeat it again: The world needs more people like you. :-)
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by pmzy on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @05:16PM (#40921239)
You’re too kind! Thank you for saying so, it means a lot.
Re:Attention Is a Proof of Love by jlundberg on Wednesday July 10, 2024 @06:38AM (#40925543)
In this world full of smartphones, this feels especially true: towards your kids or loved one.

The best tricks I know of are:

- Place your phone some place other than your pocket.

- And use it exclusively there: at a place where it is more directly obvious to tour sourroundings that you are occupied. Such as in a separate room or a specific corner less within sight from where the kids are playing.

- Get an Apple Watch or other device that only steal your attention for a brief moment. This will give you the comfort of knowing what’s going on, such as a colleague in need of assistance, without the lure or acting upon it at the cost of losing attention on what’s in front of you.