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Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by CamelCaseName on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:33AM (#40915949)
Sorry if this isn't the thread for it, but is airplane wifi costly to provide?

Is there any hope for a future where all airplane wifi is free?

(Maybe if cellphone plans automatically include satellite wifi?)

Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by nhod on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:43AM (#40916052)
In the US, it’s free on Delta for SkyMiles members, which is in turn free to join. It’s also free for everyone on JSX with no strings, and they actually are the first airline I know of to use StarLink.

Additionally it’s free on most US airlines for T-Mobile customers, but only on devices that actually have T-Mobile SIMs (so not most laptops).

Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by Someone1234 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:58AM (#40916234)
This isn't important; but Delta's "free with SkyMiles" offering is for domestic US travel. For international travel they're still charging $8/hour. Supposedly they may expand the free offering to some flights to Europe though but YMMV.
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by ziml77 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:21AM (#40916497)
I have to imagine this comes down to how they provide the Internet connection. Over land they can use cell towers. Over sea they're forced to use satellites.
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by joezydeco on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:40AM (#40916694)
On AA, the "free one hour for TMO subscribers" through their app doesn't actually check to see if you're using a TMO SIM. It only checks the phone number against their customer list.

After burning up the first free hour I switch to my wife's number, then my kids, etc. It never complains.

Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by denysvitali on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @11:09AM (#40917004)
You can literally bump the last digit of any T-Mobile number (:
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by joezydeco on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @11:25AM (#40917202)
Yeah that should work...for a while. Eventually numbers get ported out and the space fragments. Area codes don't mean much anymore.
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by master-lincoln on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:51AM (#40916153)
The question was if it's costly to provide, not how much customers have to pay
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by ydant on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @01:50PM (#40918924)
Re: T-Mobile - On United you can just set your laptop user agent to a mobile one and sign on with your phone number. Works fine for both the short period and full flight options.
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by supportengineer on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:06AM (#40916320)
On a recent Hawaiian flight there was free StarLink-powered WiFi. It was free and worked incredibly well.
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by future10se on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:06AM (#40916319)
Zipair, a budget airline subidiary of JAL, offers free Wifi [1] on all their international flights. They operate in the SEA area.

[1] - https://www.zipair.net/en/onboard/service

Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by dboreham on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:09AM (#40916360)
> but is airplane wifi costly to provide

Depends on the location. Over populated land areas, no. Over oceans far from land, yes.

Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by klohto on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:41AM (#40916040)
maybe when we have abundant Starlink capacity, otherwise any satellite-to-ground roundtrip at a reasonable speed is costly
Re:PySkyWiFi: Free stupid wi-fi on long-haul flights by ale42 on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:41AM (#40916036)
I guess the airlines want to monetize all they can... so probably not.