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Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by dralley on Monday July 08, 2024 @09:00AM (#40905044)
People keep saying this but it borders on conspiracy talk. The Air Force leadership has been pissed off at Boeing for well over a decade. Every project they've been given has turned into a clusterfuck even moreso than average. They fortunately had the foresight to not give them any cost-plus contracts, so at least it's Boeing eating most of the cost overruns rather than the Air Force, but the point remains that Boeing mismanagement has been a headache for the military.

Politicians care about getting elected, which means they don't want layoffs on their watch. Politicians don't care what the military thinks or else they'd stop funding a lot of dumb projects that the military doesn't give a shit about - of which there are many.

There are so many examples of congress putting their hand on the scale that I really don't understand the popular insistence that the military is the problem here.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by SJC_Hacker on Monday July 08, 2024 @12:09PM (#40906620)
> The Air Force leadership has been pissed off at Boeing for well over a decade.

Military brass don't control procurement. That would be Congress. In fact the military often frequently has systems it doesn't want/need precisely because Congress. See the Zumwalt destroyer and the Littoral Combat Ship.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by bombcar on Monday July 08, 2024 @10:38AM (#40905841)
The military isn't the problem, it's that the military has no other options.

Who else are they going to buy planes to bomb different-colored countries with? SpaceX? Airbus? It is to laugh.

When you get a company that is too big to fail, it rests directly on the government for not identifying and solving the issue earlier.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by zokier on Monday July 08, 2024 @12:03PM (#40906566)
Boeing hasn't won any major military aircraft deals in recent decades.

The latest big bomber purchase, B-21, went to Northrop Grumman, as did the not so recent B-2. Fighters have been going to Lockheed (F-22 and F-35).

The biggest recent win for Boeing was KC-46 tanker airplane, which is just modified 767. I suppose there is also the handful of F-15EXes that are vestige from their McDonnell Douglas merger.