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Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by londons_explore on Friday July 05, 2024 @05:56AM (#40881378)
> Price increases: As VC funding dries up and companies face pressure to turn a profit, we'll likely see sharp increases in the cost of AI services.

I disagree. Yes, the VC funding will dry up, but hardware and algorithmic advances will decrease running costs by equal amounts.

Lack of a moat will prevent companies recouping past expenses, since any who try will be outcompeted by new market entrants who don't have those past expenses.

Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by jsheard on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:03AM (#40881414)
This presumes that the SOTA models won't keep growing to fill any efficiency gains made. The models of today will get cheaper to run, sure, but surely the expectation is that AI will do a lot more than it does today in order to justify the staggering investments going into it?
Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by vincent_s on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:55AM (#40881705)
1. These companies have burned through billions in VC funding. Just breaking even won't be enough - they'll need significant profits to justify those investments.

2. We have at least one real-world example suggesting profitability is challenging. Microsoft is reportedly still losing money on GitHub Copilot, even after years of operation and many paying customers.

Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by londons_explore on Friday July 05, 2024 @01:03PM (#40884339)
> These companies have burned through billions in VC funding.

These companies, yes. But new startups will come, spend only millions, and achieve the same thing. No moat.

Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by cosmicradiance on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:25AM (#40881568)
> Yes, the VC funding will dry up, but hardware and algorithmic advances will decrease running costs by equal amounts. The author said the same - "The current reliance on expensive GPU clusters may give way to more specialized, efficient AI hardware. This could help mitigate some cost pressures."

As with the cloud, prices increase once competition dries out. Even if hardware becomes cheap, the services will cost more because shrewd and greedy boards run most businesses.

Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by sigmoid10 on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:05AM (#40881434)
>Lack of a moat will prevent companies recouping past expenses

I think we'll see a lot of vendor lock in by introducing service complexity. We are already at a point where the hassle of switching from one big API provider to another is not always worth the hassle for a small reduction in price or a tiny improvement on some benchmarks. AI will go the same route as all SaaS products until we have GAI-level stuff running locally on affordable consumer hardware. And there's a lot of money to be made until then.

Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by fsiefken on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:09AM (#40881458)
Yes, the new Ryzen APU's might have 128G, great for running LLMs. https://videocardz.com/181601/amd-testing-strix-halo-apu-wit... Perhaps some other party will come up with Groq like performant LPUs and LLMs will get more precise and efficient. I read that more and more people are running their LLMs locally.
Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by nertirs on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:37AM (#40881623)
I would even argue, that a lot of AI services in the future will be close to free for the public. That is because in a lot of cases, the data received from user interactions is more valuable, than the data generated by the AI service.
Re:Today's Cheap AI Services Won't Last by dscottboggs on Friday July 05, 2024 @06:11AM (#40881475)
Do you have some numbers to back that up or just vibes?