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Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by slt2021 on Friday June 28, 2024 @12:40AM (#40817774)
if prices don't move then you are basically stealing money from those who pay (delivery drivers, blue collar workers, contractors), who are not rich enough to live on Manhattan - to subsidize transit for affluent Manhattan residents
Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by afavour on Friday June 28, 2024 @12:42AM (#40817786)
I’m sorry… you’re suggesting congestion charging would take money from poor car drivers and give it to affluent transit riders?

By any data available that’s entirely backwards. Cars in the CBD are disproportionately driven by the affluent, transit is disproportionately taken by the poor.

Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by UberFly on Friday June 28, 2024 @03:18AM (#40818463)
"By any data available"

Let's see that data then. Plenty of working class individuals are trying to commute through the CBD for their livelihoods. They aren't taking the bus or rail to fix someone's water heater.

Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by Karrot_Kream on Friday June 28, 2024 @03:53AM (#40818611)
Really what's the point of asking this question? Did you do a search and not find anything and you're convinced this is false? Or are you just here to fight? [1] shows a pretty clear negative correlation between car ownership and poverty. Do you have a source that shows contradictory information?

(I love social medi... sorry HN oops how can I get this wrong, the quality of discussion is so high! :)

[1]: https://wellango.github.io/posts/2021/06/who-owns-cars-in-ny...

Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by slt2021 on Friday June 28, 2024 @04:29AM (#40818759)
Manhattan residents are richer than outer boroughs.

It is true, that some rich motorists will pay up congestion pricing, but they wont even notice these charges cause they are rich (so NO EFFECT whatsoever on actual congestion). In fact, that's exactly what MTA wants - they want congestion pricing Revenue, not reduction in congestion loss in revenue.

But the most impacted would be workers who rely on car to make a living: uber, lyft, doordash, blue collar contractors, food delivery trucks, etc. Everyone who has to drive to make a living will be taxed, while rich Manhattan residents will enjoy subsidies from the working class. and they cannot take public transit, so no reduction in actual congestion either.

it's all farce and show to steal money from honest working people and have over it to corrupted union bosses at MTA

Re:The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing by bluecalm on Friday June 28, 2024 @08:50AM (#40820120)
The same mindset that leads to calling bike commuters elitist apparently.