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Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by altdataseller on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:18PM (#40814625)
How does Cloudflare know whether a bot is scraping for AI purposes or any other? Or are they blocking all bots but basically adding AI to the feature because AI is the cool thing right now?
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by rsynnott on Friday June 28, 2024 @05:38AM (#40819060)
I assume a correct robots.txt, plus attempt to kill off robots.txt evaders; if you could do that reliably (the second bit is the tricky bit, of course), you could selectively exclude any bots you want.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by jdon on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:08PM (#40814531)
Cloudflare's blog post from last year [1] contains more details.

[1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-bots/

Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by ipaddr on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:09PM (#40814537)
Cloudflare is great at blocking users legitimate or not.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by tomschlick on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:11PM (#40814574)
There is always going to be false positives. Even more so with a tech/privacy minded userbase which uses ad blockers, disables JS, etc.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by jgalt212 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:17PM (#40814619)
I personally have had more issues with Google Captchas than Cloudflare Turnstile when using the dreaded Firefox / Linux combo.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by bornfreddy on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:22PM (#40814669)
Of course. Google has every incentive to make life difficult for ff users, while CF doesn't.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by chollida1 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:17PM (#40814616)
what is the difference between a scraper or crawler and an "AI scraper/crawler"?

And how does cloudflare differentiate between them?

Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by twelve40 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @05:09PM (#40815129)
it's explained pretty well in their blog post in another thread. They have a whitelist of bots catergorized by type, and ban everything else. How easy it is to spoof (just the UA, or UA+IP whatever) is not mentioned.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by epanchin on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:29PM (#40814743)
The latter doesn’t request robots.txt
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by Daunk on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:08PM (#40814527)
Didn't they add this last year?
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by SpaceManNabs on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:09PM (#40814547)
Glad to see the repost. I am going to check if I have this enabled. didn't know this feature existed.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by bakugo on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:20PM (#40814650)
I'm guessing the option to block AI bots using WAF rules has been available since last year, but this simple toggle on/off option is recent (though, all it does is create a WAF rule for you, which seemingly counts towards the WAF rule limit)
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by xbar on Thursday June 27, 2024 @05:54PM (#40815577)
I thought so. I wish they had added it 5 years ago.
Re:Cloudflare adds option to block AI scrapers and crawlers by twelve40 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @05:00PM (#40815041)
They'll just get you through common crawl or something else innocent-looking. The urge to milk everyone's content to the last penny is just too great.