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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by speedylight on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @06:48AM (#40786813)
Switching to a Mac was one of the best decisions I ever made because of crap like this. The only thing that will ever make me use windows again is GTA 6!
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by daemin on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:13AM (#40787542)
Doesn't Apple require you to have an online account to log into a Mac to use it?
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by trvr on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:19AM (#40787609)
No, you can set up a Mac with a local account without any weird hacks during setup.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by nordsieck on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:20AM (#40787627)
> Doesn't Apple require you to have an online account to log into a Mac to use it?

There's some iCloud integration, but I don't think your login is an iCloud account, it's just a local account.

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by tapoxi on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:39AM (#40787831)
No. There's a prompt to use iCloud but it's not a requirement. I don't need/want iCloud so I've never logged in on mine.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by capital_guy on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:45AM (#40787905)
No
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by speedylight on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @05:18PM (#40793733)
You can use an Apple ID but it’s optional and it’s not tied to the user account unlike windows. A Mac OS user is basically like creating a user account on a Linux machine!
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by k8sToGo on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:08AM (#40786951)
Same here. Got a MacBook Pro and downgraded my PC to a gaming appliance
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by ineedaj0b on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @09:20AM (#40788272)
‘gaming appliance’, do you mean a PlayStation or Xbox?
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by k8sToGo on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @02:40PM (#40791966)
No I meant that I only use my PC for gaming and nothing more. Previously it was my main machine that was also used for gaming.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by portaouflop on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @06:53AM (#40786844)
Gaming is horrible on Mac. Also I don’t like how they patronize their users.

I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep until EOL of win10 and then check alternatives

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by dewey on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:11AM (#40786977)
> Gaming is horrible on Mac.

Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing, not sure that comparison makes sense. Pick the right system for your workload.

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by maven29 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:32AM (#40787157)
>Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing

Doesn't Davinci Resolve run well on Linux? I've heard most VFX and Animation work is done on Linux workstations and render farms.

Really it's just the absence of Adobe and a few beginner-friendly tools, I'd say.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/VFX-Animation-Linux-Recommends

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by tombert on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:40AM (#40787845)
I think Linux is used extensively for the hyper-professional stuff, but those programs cost $10,000+ and really aren't meant for consumers.

I haven't done video editing on Linux for awhile, Lightworks is generally pretty ok, but I don't really know of any equivalent to After Effects or Apple Motion available on Linux, at least in the consumer space. I don't really do enough interesting stuff with video for that to bother me but I suspect that could be a blocker for a lot of people.

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by cjk2 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:11AM (#40787528)
> Gaming is horrible on Mac

In a couple of years I bet that has changed.

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by Macha on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:30AM (#40787736)
I don't think so. Apple is the one who really has the power to push that, and they haven't, preferring to let people port iOS games over to Mac OS. And while that is gaming, it's basically an entirely different market to the gaming we're discussing here and not a real substitute for it. While Candy Crush has a billion players, nobody is going "Oh, I can't play Cyberpunk, guess I'll just play Candy Crush". And for that traditional gaming market, Apple has thrown up roadblocks rather than assistance - their frequent tech migrations backs the back catalogue sales that help companies a lot, stuff like deprecating OpenGL for Metal means they need to write bespoke code for apple platforms when even the consoles are pretty onboard with standardisation these days.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by adamtaylor_13 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @10:42AM (#40789264)
Just this year at WWDC they announced a new tool that can port Unreal engine directly to Metal. It will only get better and better for gaming on MacOS.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by cjk2 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @09:15AM (#40788201)
I disagree. I have a bet they will kill the console market dead by 2029. Most of the games run on off the shelf tech now which has Metal back ends. The hardware is rapidly evolving in capability since 2020. The Pro devices now are quite powerful. Enough grunt to do a half decent job of being a console. When that is commoditised in the mid-range, the existing market looks rather attractive to game developers. There's also an existing marketplace (app store) and the end users, from those who I know are fucked off with Sony and Microsoft.

Yeah you're not going to run top end games at 4k on them but most people don't do that either. And the market for optimising them towards the large market scope makes sense.

Example of what is already on the market and in people's pockets. You can connect a controller and 4k display to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAOBEtQ_MY

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by Macha on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @03:17PM (#40792423)
The timing was too good on this when I saw it today, but:

https://mobilegamer.biz/those-assassins-creed-resident-evil-...

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by cjk2 on Friday June 28, 2024 @03:15PM (#40824099)
Gah. Hopes dashed. I appreciate you pointing this out to me though.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by DaSHacka on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:23AM (#40787079)
> I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep until EOL of win10 and then check alternatives

Same story here, I think the usability of Windows 10 LTSC IoT is pretty much unmatched.

It'll get security updates until 2032, doesn't have preinstalled bloat like crandy crush or the Microsoft store, lets you reschedule updates freely, and has the expanded features of Pro/Enterprise editions (group policies, RDP, Bitlocker, etc)

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by nordsieck on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:22AM (#40787653)
> Gaming is horrible on Mac.

I think it really depends on which games you want to play. I basically only play 2... and they both seem to run quite well.

I realize that that is an atypical experience, though.

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by emmet on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:30AM (#40787737)
Factorio runs perfectly and I can't see why anyone would need a second game.
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by dacryn on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @09:07AM (#40788117)
cities skylines and age of empires 2 sadly ....
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by nordsieck on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:46AM (#40787918)
Yeah - Factorio is one of them :)
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by emmet on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @09:13AM (#40788185)
Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable
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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by nordsieck on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @09:17AM (#40788235)
> Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable

To be fair, this is HN

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Re:Microsoft removes documentation for switching to a local ... by TimeBearingDown on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @07:17PM (#40805643)
Sadly GTA 6 is not coming to PC, unless plans change.
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