Every project that says it's "secure" is already a complete joke in itself. The multi billion companies who say that about themselves, can't even uphold that statement despite their infinite resources. "Secure" isn't a property that anyone can claim, it's a property that only can be attributed looking back in time.

Reminds me of a Steve Jobs video where he talks about quality, and how the Japanese never use that as a qualifier in their advertisements. People don’t assume your product is quality because you tell them it is, they experience it or hear so through word of mouth.

Secure and fast (tm)

(400mb Python script with supply chain CVEs)

Welcome to software postmodernism.

Does Microsoft Windows ring a bell? The bloat and insecurity are features, Mr., this is capitalism. Thank you for your service.

But this works for everyone.

Then at some point you have to prevent the users from harming themselves - and devices get locked in walled gardens; and that arguably works for everyone too.

There are exceptions, kudos to the EU for working to protect user rights. This software postmodernism will go only as far as we allow it.

Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train and look at all we have though. I agree it feels bad but I don't have any examples of abstraction loss of knowledge being a macro negative thing other than maybe Boeing planes right now and I'd argue that's corruption more than abstraction

> Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train

Hard disagree. Abstraction by itself does not correlate with declining quality, you can be a very competent developer working in a high level language, or a crappy developer working in low level languages.

That's too narrowly scoped and it's not a neg on the people. If you write CSS code all day, there's no reason/benefit to understand EE. It's easier for me to think about giant old wooden ships and how that knowledge got lost/replaced at we built modern navy ships. Find me someone to caulk a boat with Oakum today for instance.