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Re:Super Heavy has splashed down in The Gulf of Mexico by pfannkuchen on Friday June 21, 2024 @09:15AM (#40749295)
I believe the idea is realistically more that the allies should not have declared victory as they did, if a free Poland was truly their goal.

If you fail to achieve your stated goal and you still declare victory, you are either lying about your goal, or you are lying about your victory.

Invading the USSR probably wasn’t the most efficient way to ensure a free Poland. Have you heard of negotiation? Did the USSR really not want anything that the Allies could give to ensure a free Poland? Or did the Allies simply not value a free Poland enough to give up something big enough? If it was really their main reason for entering the war, don’t you think the negotiations math would have worked out differently?

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Re:Super Heavy has splashed down in The Gulf of Mexico by wewtyflakes on Saturday June 22, 2024 @02:13AM (#40756759)
While that can be an interesting lens (though I think it erases material context), the point I was discussing was not about the validity of someone declaring victory, but rather, about countries invading their neighbors.
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