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Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by samtho on Thursday June 20, 2024 @05:36PM (#40743676)
> I'm going to have to disagree with this one. My friends in HR said the number of inter-employee problems went way, way up during COVID remote work.

*reported

It could be that people felt more empowered to report incidents, but the reality is probably just that the nature of harassment has changed and is just different from how it was like in-person.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by Aurornis on Thursday June 20, 2024 @05:39PM (#40743705)
> It could be that people felt more empowered to report incidents,

Or it could be that the number of incidents actually just went way up? I don't understand why everyone tries to inject alternate explanations to wave away inconvenient situations.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by samtho on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:01PM (#40743905)
This discussion started with a hypothesis based on a second hand anecdote.

For all we know, it could be worse. Given the fact that a lot us have trouble separating work and home when we work remotely, maybe there is more pressure to let coworkers in that space more.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by squigz on Thursday June 20, 2024 @05:47PM (#40743779)
The point is both are reasonable explanations, and without further data, it's hard to say with certainty it's one or the other.
Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by Aurornis on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:05PM (#40743940)
Dismissing uncomfortable things becomes so much easier when you can make up an alternate explanation (without any knowledge of the details) and declare them both equally likely.
Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by squigz on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:09PM (#40743972)
Nobody's trying to dismiss them. If they're not equally likely, I'm sure you'll have no problem demonstrating that?
Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by Aurornis on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:23PM (#40744097)
> Nobody's trying to dismiss them

The parent commenter was absolutely trying to dismiss the core of the story by injecting an alternate reality into it.

> If they're not equally likely, I'm sure you'll have no problem demonstrating that?

The situation I'm referring to was not a simple reporting change. It involved employees quitting over bullying, and in one case there were issues severe enough that law enforcement became involved.

So, not, it was not a simple case of people reporting things differently. These problems did not exist pre-WFH at this company.

But if you're dead set on finding ways to reject this and substitute your own reality, I suspect even this won't convince you.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by mchanson on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:09PM (#40744867)
I think you just don't come off very convincing.
Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by squigz on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:25PM (#40744112)
> But if you're dead set on finding ways to reject this and substitute your own reality, I suspect even this won't convince you.

I really don't know why you're so aggressive. You did not include the context in your original comment that you did with this one, and so someone put forward a very reasonable explanation as to why reports may have went up.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by ipaddr on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:01PM (#40744408)
And this is caused by wfh and doesn't happen at the office is the point you are making? We must stop wfh and that will reduce bullying?

I don't think you can generalize that to other companies or even other departments at your company.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by newsclues on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:11PM (#40744500)
Because we fit facts to our preconceived notions
Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by Swizec on Thursday June 20, 2024 @05:54PM (#40743843)
It’s a lot easier to report a problem when you have screenshots.

Will HR do anything about a handsy VP in a he-said-she-said situation? Maybe. Will they do anything when you send them screenshots of a VP’s icky chats? You bet.

Re:More Disabled Americans Are Employed, Thanks to Remote Work by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Thursday June 20, 2024 @06:01PM (#40743912)
> Will HR do anything about a handsy VP in a he-said-she-said situation? Maybe

Actually, they will likely transfer the woman or otherwise screw over her career to protect the handy VP.