Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by InDubioProRubio on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @09:53AM
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Ability to reflect non-heuristically on stimuli and not fall back into stress-reflex behaviour like schizophrenia. A animal that things god/the government/everyone is after them like a mice, is less concious then somebody able test that hypothesis and leave that fear filled fever dream. Its a scale though, and in my opinion, with considerable overlap, depending on situation and adaption.
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Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by wruza on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @12:09PM
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Afaict, you are describing intelligence, not consciousness.
Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by jfyi on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @02:11PM
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I agree.
I also agree with the article that "consciousness" is an overloaded term. I believe you and I would agree to it as something more akin to "sentience" but that is not the case for everyone.
I feel this topic always seems to unknowingly devolve into disagreements on first principals.
Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by wruza on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @07:38PM
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Yes, that's common. But in everyone's defense, when I researched it myself, it gets as messy as itt in mainstream pholosophy. You can never be sure what a person really talks about and for five minutes it sounds reasonable, but then you meet a claim that yanks a carrying wall from your comprehension.
Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by notnaut on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:06AM
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We sure there’s a strong actual difference between the things? If consciousness is a spectrum, it seems likely connected to intelligence at a sort of fundamental level. The more intelligent, the more obvious it is that consciousness is there, at least.