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Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by 05 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:50PM (#40699180)
Yocto works the same way whether it’s Pi or iMX, most of the learning curve has nothing to do with the SoC. So it’s really strange to hear that your Pi workflow is better than anything you’d get with another chip..
Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by transpute on Sunday June 16, 2024 @03:13PM (#40699350)
BSP quality is famously variable by board vendor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niH1-NB6W8w

  Two products.. leveraged a Yocto-based board support package (BSP); one being in AgTech, and the other being in the veterinary space. These products have followed disparate practices when leveraging the BSP for custom hardware and software.. this talk [described] the two products, how the BSP was customized and used, and the resulting consequences.*
Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by nottorp on Sunday June 16, 2024 @03:25PM (#40699424)
But on a Pi you don't have to use Yocto. Raspbian is always faster to develop for.

Source: have worked on both Pi based solutions and custom hardware with yocto.

Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by 05 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @06:32PM (#40700667)
Yeah, one is easier and the other is right. Shipping a reproducibly built readonly rootfs image takes longer, but is strictly better than putting 'some' versions of Debian packages on the SD card and calling it a day.

It's the Arduino curse - sure, it's faster to ship Hello World with Arduino but soon you realize all your libraries were built by beginners and use delay() everywhere so you're screwed if you need two peripherals to work at once.

You use Pi for prototypes and one-offs, not where you need to ship something that's actually competitive on BoM.

Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by ajb on Sunday June 16, 2024 @09:53PM (#40701653)
These days you can make anything have a readonly rootfs by using overlayfs. Just wipe your overlay partition to do a factory reset.
Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by nottorp on Monday June 17, 2024 @02:53AM (#40702938)
> something that's actually competitive on BoM.

Some applications are profitable at only hundreds of devices deployed. In which case, the moment you say "BoM" the hardware bill triples.

If you ship thousands to millions, of course you're right.

Re:The Raspberry Pi 5 Is No Match for a Tini-Mini-Micro PC by bloggie on Sunday June 16, 2024 @03:33PM (#40699478)
Not using Yocto simplifies and speeds development extremely, unless you have dedicated staff familiar with Yocto. It’s a big reason to prefer Pi.