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Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by crote on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:11PM (#40698954)
> Like for instance how China banned single serving plastic usage.

Even that probably isn't sensible. Banning single-use plastic leads to a shift to single-use paper, single-use wood, or single-use metal - all of which are even worse for the environment. The problem isn't the "plastic" part, the problem is the "single-use" part.

Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by bobthepanda on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:15PM (#40698984)
Bad for the environment has multiple facets to it.

For example, we already know that plastics form a lot of the trash in the ocean; but now we also know that these plastics shed microplastics pervasively as well.

Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by Hnrobert42 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:16PM (#40698988)
How is single use paper even worse for the environment than single use plastic?
Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by Contortion on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:26PM (#40699037)
Paper is environmentally expensive to produce and recycle. If it's worse than plastic is surely debatable but it's definitely not significantly better.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-scienc...

Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by jankeymeulen on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:45PM (#40699144)
but paper that ends up in the environment is almost surely better
Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by dzhiurgis on Sunday June 16, 2024 @04:35PM (#40699889)
I can imagine paper bag rotting away and producing methane while plastic bag inert for centuries.

Short term global warming seems far bigger issue than plastic waste (which is manageable)

Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by bobthepanda on Sunday June 16, 2024 @08:45PM (#40701349)
Microplastic seems to be a public health issue.
Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by dzhiurgis on Sunday June 16, 2024 @09:38PM (#40701581)
Nothing conclusive tho. More like - it's everywhere, some of it might be dangerous.
Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by Dudhbbh3343 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:16PM (#40698986)
Rather than bans, all these materials with environmental externalities should be taxed at an appropriate rate. Then the market can find the optimal material for each use case.
Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by dredmorbius on Sunday June 16, 2024 @03:34PM (#40699484)
This presumes that the process which establishes taxation levels is completely independent of the current profitability and power of those companies involved in their present creation.

The history of negative-externalities-generating industries --- lead, asbestos, tobacco, alcohol, CFCs, amongst others --- suggests that this may not be the case.

Re:Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs by thenthenthen on Sunday June 16, 2024 @02:16PM (#40698989)
All the straws here in China are made from PLA… the polymer. Not sure how well that breaks down though, but hey, at least you get a free plastic bag with insulation with it!