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Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by amelius on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @07:15PM (#40652753)
Yes, but we do not call a couch in a leopard print a leopard. Because we understand that the print is secondary to the function.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by VirusNewbie on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @07:55PM (#40653047)
I'm not sure it's as simple as you say. The first time my very young son saw a horse, he made the ASL sign for 'dog'.

He had only ever seen cats and dogs in his life previous to that.

Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by clipsy on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:16PM (#40653816)
Did he require 9,999 more examples of horses before learning the difference?
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by VirusNewbie on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @11:24PM (#40654137)
In another comment I replied that 3D high fidelity images do end up being thousands of training samples, so the answer is yes.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by clipsy on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:19AM (#40654468)
I'm deeply skeptical that training AI on (effectively) thousands of images of one horse will perform very well at training to recognize horses in general.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by jpc0 on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @04:21AM (#40655798)
I'll double down with you on this.

Then train the AI using a binaural video of a thoroughbred and see if it can distinguish a draft horse and a quarter horse as horse...

Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by _flux on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @04:51AM (#40655970)
Are you suggesting that if a group of kids were given a book of zoo animals before going to the zoo, they would have difficulties identifing any new animals, because they only have seen one picture of each?
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by VirusNewbie on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:02PM (#40659615)
I think that's an interesting question, and a possible counter to my argument.

Certainly kids learn and become better at extrapolation and need fewer and fewer samples in general as they get more life experience.

Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by rolisz on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @09:14PM (#40653467)
Hah. My toddler gladly calls her former walking aid toy a "lawn mower". Random toys become pie and cakes she brings to us to eat.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by mewpmewp2 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @11:50PM (#40654278)
But we have a lot more sensory input and context to verify all of that.

If you kept training LLMs with all that data, it would be interesting to see what the results would be.