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Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jononor on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @04:46AM (#40643971)
So let people make an informed consent and opt-in to include their data. You are free to try to convince people of these benefits and that it outweighs privacy etc... But you do not get to choose for me. I reject technocracy.
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by triblemaster on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @06:16AM (#40644497)
or pay them for the data.
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by redeeman on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @06:09AM (#40644461)
they have this thing called "dont use facebook" :)

i know, they should probably let people use the service without various data collections, but still, perhaps people should stop signing over their soul to these crappy companies?

Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jononor on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @07:03AM (#40644798)
I already limit usage very heavily. Just a few contacts left and I can remove it completely. However this is not so easy in general, as others expect to be able to reach you on FB/WhatsApp/Instagram. And even worse - almost all the social/communications companies seem to be adopting a similar stance. So there are fewer and fewer places to go.

Social connections are very important to people, and these companies are exploiting our desire to stay connected with other people - and the difficulty of changing communication platforms when there are many parties involved.

Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jacooper on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @06:19AM (#40644518)
What's the alternative? You expected your high school mates to use mastodon?
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by herbst on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @08:07AM (#40645257)
Email and even SMS still do work great tho.
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jacooper on Friday June 14, 2024 @09:48PM (#40686861)
These don't serve the same purpose.

Stories and other things on platforms like Instagram help you stay connected with people passively without needing to find a suitable topic or a reason to start conversation of nowhere, it may make you discover a new thing to keep you connected to that person, they are interested in something you are curious about, thinking of traveling to the same place, etc.

Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by herbst on Monday June 17, 2024 @03:39AM (#40703164)
You feel connected to people by looking at their pictures and avoid talking to them? Honestly not sure why I would want to feel connected to anyone I don't have a reason to talk to
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jacooper on Thursday June 20, 2024 @02:08PM (#40741478)
Connected was probably the wrong word, more like up to date.
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by redeeman on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:29PM (#40675009)
since i dont use that, no. I would however expect sms or email to work, maybe telegram, maybe signal. and if they cannot "inconvenience" themselves slightly for that, I dont quite think I need them
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by jacooper on Friday June 14, 2024 @09:45PM (#40686846)
Expect*
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by nope1000 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @09:28AM (#40645951)
Well they are functional monopolies but also even if you don't use Meta services, if any of your friends posted a photo with you on there, it can also be used for training and without an account, you can't even object to that.
Re:Meta says European data is essential for culturally relev... by gravescale on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @09:04AM (#40645768)
Indeed, I'll believe a company isn't up to some repugnantly slimy shenanigans the moment they volunteer to accurately and carefully explain what data they want, why they think it's useful, how they'll look after it and why it's in my interest to opt in, all without being threatened into doing the very barest minimum by law.

Otherwise it's about as convincing as the school bully being forced to shake hands with his victim while the head teacher is standing over him.