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Re:Garbage collect your technical debt (2021) by yarekt on Sunday June 09, 2024 @07:08AM (#40623631)
Ouch, right in the feels.

I’ve come to realise that there’s no valid business case for dealing with tech debt early, nor adding tests to an existing project (bar some special circumstances / legacy change, critical outage, etc)

It’s like a lot of things have to be aligned for “good” development practices to reap benefits, most shops are much less organised, and a bit of chaos and early/quick iterative shipping will always yield better results.

Having said that, my core belief is still that if you take care and do things properly you’ll go fast in places where all other companies get bogged down

Re:Garbage collect your technical debt (2021) by WalterSear on Sunday June 09, 2024 @08:10AM (#40623909)
I'd argue that there's definitely a business case for frequent and early refactoring - it just needs to be refactoring worth doing in the first place.

The biggest issue I've seen with not handling tech debt on an ongoing basis is that there's never a good time to start. So if it's not built into the development cadence, then resistance builds for doing it at all. Product starts pointing fingers at the "slow" engineering, who point back at the "breakneck" demand for feature work, and negotiations start for unrealistic (for both sides) halts in development - neither sufficient to resolve the problems nor short enough to avoid hurting the business. Then product breathes a sigh of relief - the tech debt is "resolved" and will never need to be addressed again, engineering returns to wading through the codebase that is only marginally less swampy than it was before the cursory refactoring sprint, and the downward spiral (and finger pointing) resumes.

At least that's how it always seems to happen around me :)

Re:Garbage collect your technical debt (2021) by yarekt on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:58AM (#40646926)
I think it goes back to experience. If everyone involved has suffered at least once, they’ll be keen to spot issues before they cause pain. both developers and managers.

So therefore my current reasoning is this sort of thing can’t be taught or explained /shrug.

I’m currently on a quest to teach/explain this now, so depending on how that goes I may change my mind, but i’m not holding my breath