Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by pantalaimon on Saturday June 08, 2024 @04:38PM
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Or maybe the simple growth plan allowed it to accumulate lots of cruft that’s basically doing nothing
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by thfuran on Saturday June 08, 2024 @07:41PM
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We used to think huge amounts of our own genome didn't do anything.
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by hollerith on Saturday June 08, 2024 @07:44PM
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But it is true that huge amounts of our genome don't do anything. There are sequences where the same letter or string repeats thousands of times. There are many copies of things that have accumulated mutations that make them non-functional.
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by dleeftink on Saturday June 08, 2024 @08:49PM
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The idea that repeated sequences in certain genomes are non-functional or 'junk' is questionable, as they provide additional encapsulation to chromosomes with cell nuclei (a sort of fault tolerance).[0]
[0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S108495212...
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by timschmidt on Saturday June 08, 2024 @11:27PM
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Computer architectures sometimes necessitate no-ops under certain circumstances to facilitate functionality. Even though they're no-ops, they're not useless. To the contrary, they have very specific and required uses, which is why they exist.
Evolution works on integrated systems, not parts. Which goes a long way toward explaining why life doesn't seem to have any single-use components - everything serves multiple purposes. We just don't understand them all yet.
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by gdrift on Sunday June 09, 2024 @10:18AM
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That hasn't changed. It's still ~90% junk.
Total Essential/Functional (so far) = 8.7%
Total Junk (so far) = 65%
Unknown (probably mostly junk) = 26.3%
https://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2011/05/whats-in-your-genome.html
https://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2008/02/theme-genomes-junk-dna.html
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by ratsmack on Sunday June 09, 2024 @01:27PM
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There's a reason for everything.
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by incrudible on Sunday June 09, 2024 @05:14PM
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There is a reason for all the junk in my drawer, but it is still junk.
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by lloydatkinson on Sunday June 09, 2024 @02:09PM
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In cases like this why don’t they try grow a fern that only has genes with an identified purpose and go from there?
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by idiotsecant on Saturday June 08, 2024 @06:01PM
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Biology only cares about elegance when it substantially contributes to fitness, otherwise entropy is the natural way of things!
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by jameshart on Saturday June 08, 2024 @06:31PM
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Natural selection leaving review comments: lgtm
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by awwaiid on Saturday June 08, 2024 @11:03PM
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:shipit: haha
Re:Tiny fern has the largest genome of any organism on Earth
by nativeit on Sunday June 09, 2024 @02:38PM
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It’s my (very simplistic and layperson) understanding that the size of an organism’s genome is more correlated to how long it has been evolving, rather than any specific complexity of the organism. Since ferns are one of the oldest organisms known to science, it makes sense that their genome would be relatively large.
I don’t remember when/where I heard this, it may very well be BS.
Maybe most of the genome is just a long comment explaining why they can’t use recursion.