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Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by habosa on Thursday June 06, 2024 @12:03PM (#40599041)
Funny, because Elon has said in the past he thinks induced demand is an “irrational theory”: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1211076829395738626
Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by infogulch on Thursday June 06, 2024 @12:10PM (#40599130)
That is funny!
Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by Mathnerd314 on Thursday June 06, 2024 @12:49PM (#40599605)
Wikipedia splits induced demand into "latent demand" and "generated demand". I think Elon has no trouble with the idea of latent demand and that by lowering the costs of space travel more will do it. The issue is generated demand, it is a bit irrational to think that a person with no desire for space travel in the first place will say "oh look, space travel is cheap, let's make a satellite". The general story is startups find market fit or they die. You have to find the customers, it is not like you make a product and everyone changes their desires to conform.
Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by diffxx on Thursday June 06, 2024 @01:44PM (#40600278)
It's not totally irrational. There is a reason for the phrase monkey see, monkey do.
Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by astrange on Thursday June 06, 2024 @08:19PM (#40604003)
> it is a bit irrational to think that a person with no desire for space travel in the first place will say "oh look, space travel is cheap, let's make a satellite".

They won't make a satellite but they will demand things which middlemen can solve with a satellite.

> You have to find the customers, it is not like you make a product and everyone changes their desires to conform.

Once smartphones were invented, people found within themselves the desire for a smartphone.

Although there's a lot of debate about this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say's_law

Re:The Right Not to Be Subjected to AI Profiling Based on Pu... by fsckboy on Thursday June 06, 2024 @02:19PM (#40600650)
Elon is correct.

So-called "induced demand" is just a dumbing down of the more fundamental notion of supply and demand, for people who aren't comfortable thinking about math, calculus, dynamic equilibria, etc. If you read the wikipedia article on it, you'll see they constantly describe it in terms of supply and demand. The term was originally "defined" in 1999 in a paper that was not written by economists. It's not an economics term.

in terms of transportation planning, a better way to think about it is, "misery distributes itself throughout the system".