Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted with Pegasus spyware

Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by myth_drannon on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:09PM (#40536882)

from the article "...there is also no evidence suggesting that Russia, Belarus, or Lithuania are Pegasus customers. Latvia appears to use Pegasus, but the country is also not known for targeting victims outside of its borders. ...., Estonia does appear to use Pegasus extensively outside their borders, including within multiple European countries. "

It would be very surprising to see Russia using Western tech such as Pegasus, you can't just outsource your spy tools to your enemies. They most likely have as powerful if not more technologies.

This whole NSO spectacle is more about the subversive BSD movement than a genuine care about political suppression and spying on the citizens.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by lupusreal on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:18PM (#40536997)

If they could get their hands on Pegasus tools, their use might be ideal for Russia if for no other reason than because it would sow uncertainty and confusion.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by myth_drannon on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:22PM (#40537850)

It's like using GPS. Russians created Glonass because GPS is under US control and can be used to subvert their operations. Pegasus is linked to a West allied country and can be used to feed them false information.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by krzyk on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:41PM (#40537266)

Pegasus is Israeli, I'm not sure it is "western".

Israel is very lenient towards Russia.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by elevaet on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:45PM (#40538134)

Israel is very intertwined with the typical conception of "the West" via a very cozy relationship with the USA including billions in annual funding, and a great proportion of its citizens having roots in Europe and the USA.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by mantas on Friday May 31, 2024 @02:12PM (#40538502)

At the same time Netanyahu is happy to wear Koloradka. And big chunk of Israeli population has Russian/USSR origins.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by elevaet on Friday May 31, 2024 @03:53PM (#40539507)

It's certainly a country at the nexus of many dimensions.

What's the significance of wearing Koloradka? It looks like something christian priests wear, I don't think I understand.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by mantas on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @10:38AM (#40575106)

Koloradka originally was tsarist Russia reward. Later it was revived by soviets in WW2, but not used much after the war. Then Putin revived it as a symbol of continuous history of tsarist Russian empire, USSR and his regime. Nowadays it's a symbol of modern Russian imperialism with a historical flavor.

In those parts of europe where both tsarist Russia and Soviet union were occupiers and now Putin is a threat, koloradka is pretty much on the same rank as nazi symbols.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by heavenlyblue on Friday May 31, 2024 @05:16PM (#40540343)

> And big chunk of Israeli population has Russian/USSR origins.

Most of whom probably still remeber very well the moderate Russian racism towards jews.

Also they probably would have stayed in Russia if they were happy with their government. Luckily Israel was one of the good ways to get out of the country if you had jewish roots.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by immibis on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:38AM (#40544241)

Israel finds itself in the same position as Russia war-wise.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by myth_drannon on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:31PM (#40567782)

Da, Comrade

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by mantas on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @10:40AM (#40575125)

Some do remember. Some just used some obscure grandpa's paper as a getaway card into a better-off country. With many of those grandpa's papers being forged.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by neoromantique on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:45PM (#40537314)

Used to be lenient

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by Etherlord87 on Friday May 31, 2024 @06:37PM (#40541054)

I'm surprised this was the case for so long as Iran is a close ally of russia.

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by solarpunk on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:55PM (#40537457)

trying to understand the BSD linkage here and I'm coming up empty

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Re:Civil society in Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland targeted w... by rjsw on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:09PM (#40537666)

I'm guessing they meant BDS - Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.

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