May I ask where do you live in EU that WFH is stil in palce? Here in Austria no employer tolerates WFH anymore.

Any recruiter I spoke with and I asked them about WFH, they asked "how many days?" and when I answered "well, all of them?", the conversation ended there. All the managers want butts in seats at least 3 days/week. One company here I interviewed recently told me when I asked about WFH "we know people love this WFH thing, so to please them, we're offering WFH on Fridays" lol

Managers can't live without seeing butts in seats here. It's either you come to the office or stay unemployed. The market is really bad here and employees have no leverage for WFH, that's why I asked where you live, since I'm planning to get out of this hellhole and I'm checking my options.

Honestly so far in large terms the countries I consider most with some future are the USA in the MID term, Russia in the long term, France might have a future thanks to a lower density and still being an "almost complete" country where almost anything is or can be produced domestically but it's still uncertain, however having old parents in Italy (north west, so relatively nearby) where I'm from I've choose a near-enough country where I can live well enough and work from remote. In Italy the situation is similar to the one you describe for Austria, aggravated by a higher population density...

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Isn't that region very expensive CoL compared to the local wages?

Can you work in France tech sector, without speaking French?

It's depend, far less expensive than Paris, far more expensive than the rest of France, but a thing is the shore, where anything have touristic prices, another is the inner land where prices are far lower.

> Can you work in France tech sector, without speaking French?

Maybe it's possible, but it would be definitively hard. France is an ancient ex-empire fully knowing the power of the langue on individuals, so they do not like using foreign languages. Of course even in France in tech most things are in English, but the fact that docs, exterior costumers contacts etc happen in English you still need French for all, starting from the public administration.

In salary terms, you normally get FAR less than Luxembourg and still significantly less than Belgium, for a not so lower cost of life, but you still get EU level services, a nice climate, a bit hot now, but with cool nights, with nature around. I'm at 1030m altitude at 7km for the "main village" and I still get a 2Gbps/860Mbs FTTH, a small supermarket nearby, a big one at 15' with Drive, various leisure services and few shops. Not at all at the level of a developed big city of course, but still a good level of services, while in nature. So for me the choice was "higher salary with less nice condition for a period than going somewhere else or less salary but a good quality of life and stability", I chose this one.

It's by far not the same.

When I've built my current home I design it (well, sketched, the architects have done the proper design) after I've decided to add domestic p.v., after an EV charging station, a kiosk (gazebo, not sure the proper name in English a structure open on all sides with a tiled roof and a platform on ground to be outside but a bit protected from rain, Sun etc). I can't do nothing like that in an apartment. I can't get backups in an apartment, for instance I have here a heat-pump domestic hot-water system, it's very simple in principle, but demand a certain amount of space for the hot water reservoir, much bigger than classic water heater. I've decided to stock a bit of clean water (1000+1000l with a pump and pressurized tank system to have a week backup or even more if a day water supply freeze (happen once since I'm here) or there is any other interruption), it's pretty cheap but again it demand space. I have also a diesel car with a 1000l reservoir in garage, topped up once in a while when the diesel cost less than the average. Again pretty cheap, comfy, simple, but demand space. There is no space in an apartment for anything like that. In a home there is room to OWN, in an apartment you do not really own nothing but a shelter and some stuff you put in it. For me it's the prototype of the "in 2030 you'll own nothing", the service economy where you are forced to rent anything because you simply can't own anymore, and we know from history how devastating is such model once you get trapped in it.

I get it, I love gardening too, and balconies don’t really cut it for me either.

Cities have existed for as long as written history has. They can only get so wide before there’s pressure to build up. What’s the alternative?

> When I've built my current home

Vanishingly few people have the financial privilege to buy, let alone build, anywhere near a city, I’m sure you’re aware.

There simply isn’t a world where every single person can live in a PV-powered, water tank backed up fortress, with ample setbacks to keep your neighbours away. That’s far more dystopian to me than any “you’ll never own anything” boogeyman.

I'm not sure of that, at all: I see the green new deal as something happening that's here to last, and I see no chances to "migrate" to green new deal condos, electrifying them on scale. Yes, you can build a NEW condo "A class, all electric", but there is no chances to transform those built decades ago, and no chances to re-built them as well. Yes, in temperate climate it's still doable to put an air-water heating powerful enough per unit, even a central heating. However the operational cost of such move will be FAR higher than gas at actual prices, not only, if ALL condos switch to such heating setup we simply can't provide enough electricity for them all.

Where I'm from (north-west Italy, so not a cold region) a classic apartment have circa 24kW thermal gas or oil heating system. Converted to an air-water heat pump it would be around 6-8kW normal absorption for 6 hours per day at least 4-5 month per year. With ALL units at 6-8kW + the rest there is simply no generation capacity. No chance to electrify. Meanwhile where I'm now, in a much fresh place in winter, 1kW heat a home far bigger than a typical apartment most of the year, with -25℃ outside 4kW suffice. At this absorption rate there is enough generation capacity to be all electric. That's why we need new buildings.

Now HOW to made them? In a dense city crushing and rebuilt a condo is hardly feasible, in EU anything was designed at a walk distance, crushing a condo means blocking roads nearby for some months, there is simply no space to do so without big issues. It could be done for ONE condo, definitively not en-masse. Single family homes on contrary are easier to rebuilt end generally have enough space around to put a construction site in place without dramas. Aside we have many cities in places more and more flooded, subjected to dangerous subsidence and so on, again we can't rebuild cities, it's simply too costly. Take a look at the Indian's 100-smart city program, where the ENTIRE COUNTRY resources would be needed to built 100 cities able theoretically to host only a very limited percentage of population.

Long story short: modern city, future cities are like the ancient Fordlandia from Henry Ford, equally a failure and a distopic nightmare.

> Cities have existed for as long as written history has. They can only get so wide before there’s pressure to build up. What’s the alternative?

Yes, because we never have had current TLC/IT and logistics. Today it's cheaper to build a chair in China, with wood from Poland, straw seat from Brazil, metallic connectors from India to sell it in Canada than directly build it in Canada few kilometers away of the final customer. We are in a changing world and that means mass migrations, war, we need flexibility to relocate and cope with countless "whole country malfunctioning issues" for a long period of time, in a city it's a nightmare, anyone eat, but all the food came from elsewhere, big infra are need to move food, goods in general, there is little to no room to change, an easy target for bombing during a war, an easy target to spread diseases and so on. The alternative is living in less dense and more geographically distributed ways, so we can relocate easily because number of people to move per single area on earth are not so high, impacted people from extreme weather, war, crisis events far more manageable, there is room for limited autonomy to be resilient, there is space to evolve as the tech change.

> Vanishingly few people have the financial privilege to buy, let alone build, anywhere near a city, I’m sure you’re aware.

Ignore the current economy: can we MATERIALLY build single family home for almost anyone? In terms of industrial output ability, raw materials availability and so on? I think yes in all western countries and in many other as well. Economy it's just a measure. If we, the people, decide to do something doable materially, the economy will change to make it possible, because the current economic state of things is the byproduct of the current failing democratic model, we are in a kind of economic dictatorship modeled after/well described by the ancient pamphlet The Science Of Government, Founded On Natural Law, by Clinton Roosevelt. If we decide to change our countries without the need of a III world war we can. 99% can. If most prefer stop the history train they will fails as regularly happen in history, ending up in city more and more similar to ghettos with a lower and lower mean income, bigger and bigger criminal activities, desperation and so on, as you can already observe in most USA big and medium cities compared to themselves 20+ years ago. As you can see in most EU cities even if at a slower rate than the USA simply because we have much more social protections that slow down the economical effects of current policies.

> There simply isn’t a world where every single person can live in a PV-powered, water tank backed up fortress, with ample setbacks to keep your neighbours away. That’s far more dystopian to me than any “you’ll never own anything” boogeyman.

There is no need to keep our neighbors away IF we slowly change from the city model to the spread model with public investments starting from WFH as a key element to allow people flee the city and behind them paving the way for others to build services outside "now" that there is a market outside. It's a path doable an year after another with a significant economy boost form such enormous general relocation effort.

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Such "bonus" can ONLY be get from private owner for their old/new main home, and only very few can take it at first because EU job market, specially toady is not as fluid as the USA one, find a new job is not at all that easy and quick, specially if it's not a "desperate level" one, so essentially at first only remote workers with not much big family ties and early retired could accept it. Only some of them will do, people fear the change. Meaning only a small cohort of citizen can get the bonus the first year. Not too much to provoke market disruption as many "eco-bonus" already provoked here (for instance Italian 110%, meaning the State cover the 110% of costs to improve a building for 2 energy class or the French "Isolation à 1 euro" witch lead to an incredible amount of crappy insulation with a gazillion of problems led to significant costs for many who originally spent just 1€ to "better insulate" a new home. However this said cohort is still not too small to not count at all. After them successfully settled others will be convinced and another batch of people will took the bonus. After them it's time for many to look for a new "market" outside the city, instead of 10 restaurants in 1km in the city center there will be some moving outside to serve spread populations, and that another batch. Since building homes here is far from simple like in the USA, it took MONTHS just to buy the terrain and get a project approved, the speed at a certain point will increase but not too much, meaning a decade at least of steady economic growth led by the real estate.