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Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by jerojero on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:23PM (#40468341)
Honestly it's becoming impossible to find information on the web.

A friend of mine wanted to find some lyrics and the lack of proper verbatim mode has made it impossible to know if he had the wrong lyrics or if the information is not there or if the search itself is failing.

If there are no matches whatsoever then tell me there's no matches. If there's partial matches tell me how close it is to my search terms. Like you might match all but one or two words and so on. These are the kind of useful features I'd expect on search.

The usefulness of AI, on my mind, might be more towards interpretation of the questions rather than generation of the answers.

If I were Google I'd try something like using genAI to rephrase the question to extract keywords and so on that can be used to enhance search. But then again, I think I put myself in a position of "how do we make search better and more accurate" and that's simply not the position Google finds themselves in.

Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by bambax on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:38PM (#40468503)
It's still possible on Google to use Tools > All Results > Verbatim, and it won't extrapolate and try to find exact matches to the query.
Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by chubot on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:49PM (#40468628)
Yeah the other day I was browing the NYC central park website - https://www.centralpark.com/

And I noticed my 2021 Macbook was unable to scroll to the bottom of the page. It was just chugging like crazy, and I couldn't see the content I wanted because of it.

Then I remembered I didn't install AdBlock on this browser. I installed it and went back to the page, and OK now I can actually use the website.

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What concerns me is not so much that there are lots of low quality sites looking to scrape pennies from Google or whatever.

It's that this kind of software development culture is normalized -- where government agencies and hospitals are sending data to Google and Facebook.

I would be interested to hear from somebody who works in those areas what the incentives are.

If you are working on the central park website, why are you adding ads to it? Isn't it funded by the government?

Specifically I opened up dev tools and I see like 297 blocked requests to

https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net

I see ads for Lowe's Hardware Memorial Day sales and such. OK fine, but why are they locking up my computer and making the site unusable?

(Also does anyone remember the days when Google was "morally" against invasive image ads and irrelevant ads? They preached non-invasive and relevant, helpful ads. Those days seem SO far away now ...)

Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by spaceman_2020 on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:43PM (#40469223)
Google's results are now just plain baffling.

I live in India, haven't been to the US in 17 years, don't use a VPN.

Yet when I search for "St Petersburg Airport", it directs me to the airport for the city in Florida, and now the much older, much more densely populated, and much more culturally significant city in Russia (a city where I HAVE been once - and Google would likely know).

Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by the_snooze on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:35PM (#40468466)
>Honestly it's becoming impossible to find information on the web.

It's because everyone is trying to sell you something, no matter how irrelevant it is to you. The cost of transmitting information at scale is effectively zero, and gen AI makes generating information at scale also zero. It's noise at scale crowding out the non-scalable things that are of actual value to humans. Something has to give.

Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by flenserboy on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:57PM (#40468724)
I don't think that's the only factor. There is a strong impetus toward obfuscation, both from the direction of a search engine (more clicks, more "interaction"), and from corporate & govt interests (the less people know, & know to be actually true, the better).
Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by fragmede on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:53PM (#40468673)
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22jridhxjiej%22

gives no matches for me, what does it show for you?

Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by leduyquang753 on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:30PM (#40468407)
Your friend can still enclose the phrases of the lyrics with double quotes to force an exact match on each of them.
Re:Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination by cma on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:35PM (#40468473)
Now with verbatim if you have a typo they no longer show the number of results up front so you often don't notice and only get sources with the same typo, furthering the impression that Google's results suck.

"Google hides search results count under tools section"

https://searchengineland.com/google-hides-search-results-cou...