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Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by kragen on Thursday May 23, 2024 @09:01PM (#40461797)
old concrete is not in high demand. unfortunately, when i try to follow your link it just says 'fuck you, wetback scum', like every home depot page, so i'm not sure what your evidence is. are they offering you money for your old concrete? how much are they paying?

something like 15% of the material that gets carted to landfills is old concrete

generally speaking, old concrete is used in new concrete as (very) coarse aggregate. alternative coarse aggregate is mostly angular crushed stone, like the track ballast you see around railroad tracks. this is made by dynamiting deposits of limestone, granite, or basalt and feeding it through a rock crusher. while this sounds violent and energy-intensive, it's nothing compared to running a cement clinker kiln. most of the cost of coarse aggregate is from the cost of shipping it, not the cost of the energy needed to crush it; as wp says

> Large stone quarry and sand and gravel operations exist near virtually all population centers due to the high cost of transportation relative to the low value of the product. Trucking aggregate more than 40 kilometers is typically uneconomical

Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by CyberDildonics on Thursday May 23, 2024 @11:50PM (#40462622)
Every link to homedepot.com calls you a racial slur?
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by kragen on Thursday May 23, 2024 @11:54PM (#40462642)
at greater length, what it says is 'Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.homedepot.com/c/ah/how-to-dispose-of-concrete/9ba..." on this server.', as it always does when you access a homedepot.com page from argentina; i summarized it for your benefit
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by CyberDildonics on Friday May 24, 2024 @01:33AM (#40463116)
Home depot left south america in 2001. I think you may be hallucinating persecution.

https://vmsd.com/home-depot-leaves-south-america/

Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by defrost on Thursday May 23, 2024 @11:57PM (#40462656)
It rejected my advances as a corked hat wearing kangaroo chaser ... it appears to be heavily geofenced and insular.
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by VagabundoP on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:09AM (#40463317)
It rejected me like the potato eating stout drinking bare knuckle fighter that I am.
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by defrost on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:14AM (#40463344)
mar ná beidh ár leithéidí arís ann
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by blitzar on Friday May 24, 2024 @03:25AM (#40463785)
Can confirm; told me to go shag some sheep.
Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by trimethylpurine on Sunday May 26, 2024 @01:22PM (#40483809)
I think you're saying that it's more valuable as concrete, right?

That it can be made into something more expensive doesn't imply that it is also environmentally sound.

In fact, those are almost always mutually exclusive goals.

My question is about what will be used for roads, and whether acquiring that product will be more environmentally sound.

I'm not immediately opposed to the technology. I'm just at least as skeptical as all scientists should be.

Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by kragen on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:30PM (#40494377)
no, i am saying that the only real market for old concrete today is to replace some of the crushed stone used in making new concrete, for example for making roads, but that old concrete is in so little demand for this purpose that most of it ends up in the landfill

it's possible i'm misunderstanding, but you seem to be asking whether making crushed stone is more or less environmentally damaging than recycling old concrete. the answer is that neither of them results in significant environmental damage in itself, but trucking them to construction sites does

also can you elucidate which goals you meant to say were usually mutually exclusive? it isn't clear from context

also, i asked two questions in my previous comment that you haven't answered: are they offering you money for your old concrete? how much are they paying?

Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by trimethylpurine on Thursday May 30, 2024 @01:06PM (#40526078)
I meant that we typically need to choose between two goals. Profit and environmentalism.

They are offering money. As for how much, I imagine it depends on the area. All things gravel and stone are expensive at the moment. People are getting caught stealing sand, that's the world we're in today.

Re:Cement recycling method could help solve one of the big c... by kragen on Thursday June 06, 2024 @08:01AM (#40596389)
i see, thanks! it sounds like you haven't attempted to take them up on the offer

it's not true that gravel, crushed stone, and sand are expensive, by most definitions of 'expensive'. they cost pennies per kilogram. yes, that's enough for people to make a profit from stealing