Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by mike_d on Thursday May 23, 2024 @09:07PM
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Google was always better than Yahoo/Bing at dealing with webspam (whether Google can continue to beat current webspam is a different debate). Bing is happily traning on the things they don't know are bad results. Garbage in garbage out.
The only competition Google needs to worry about is Google's leadership. Once Cloud brought in TK and they started actively recruiting from Microsoft and Oracle it was like an infection of stupid they haven't been able to fight.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by shooker435 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @09:26PM
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Not sure if it's strictly the recruiting pool that made things break down, but I see it more as a result of COVID/WFH + the recruiting pool. Google's strong in-office culture once helped new joiners learn the culture and challenge others in a respectful way - now it's a political minefield.
Remote work is great, but it probably accelerated Google's culture decline. If you've been there a while, you'll notice the wild difference in employee attitudes when comparing pre-2019 employees to post 2020 employees.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by mike_d on Thursday May 23, 2024 @10:05PM
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> Remote work is great, but it probably accelerated Google's culture decline.
Absolutely agree. A lot of the top talent bailed when they started demanding return to office. Google played the "if you don't X we will fire you" with a bunch of L7+ that ... surprise, could easily get jobs elsewhere or had enough GSUs to flat out retire.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by shooker435 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @10:17PM
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Yeah, I left to start my own company (which I was already contemplating) but some of the changes in early 2023 were the catalyst that I needed to make the jump. I made sure to give the best feedback that I could in my exit interview, but I doubt it has much of an impact at a company that large.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by yterdy on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:51PM
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Depending on who you ask, Google's search issues started as early as 2010 (Instant) or 2016 ("brands"). Many of the things people complain about regarding Google's culture - shuttering projects arbitrarily, hiring issues (the interview gauntlet, anti-competitive practices, etc.), the slow erosion of Don't Be Evil - are 2010s products, also. I don't think this is WFH, at its root.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by AlienRobot on Thursday May 23, 2024 @09:14PM
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Personally, every time I see chat GPT's output I just skip it. I look at it and I'm not sure it's quoting things literally or changing them, so I can't trust anything the summary says, and if I'm going to click the links anyway, I don't need the summary.
Re:Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion
by __loam on Thursday May 23, 2024 @10:05PM
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Completely is a wild overstatement of what OpenAI has done to Google. There was an article on hackernews a few weeks ago about the actual trends that showed GPT had barely scratched Google's share of traffic and that OpenAI was hemorrhaging users after the initial sign up.
If they were even approaching baseline-clever, they'd realize that they've caused people to be so pissed at the declining quality of their search for years and that they'll happily jump ship.