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Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by beaeglebeachedd on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:04PM (#40381907)
The one that makes me angriest is wildland firefighter prisoners can't get civilian wildland firefighting jobs after release. It is typically a job reserved for model prisoners and if they've performed admirably they should be prioritized for openings on release.
Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by throwup238 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:39PM (#40382274)
That's unconscionable. The only way these programs make any sense ethically is if the prisoners get a job automatically after release, which is a huge step up from the discrimination they face in the job market. California really should be more like Arizon, from TFA:

> In Arizona, jobs at Hickman’s are voluntary and often sought after, not just for the money, but also because employment and affordable housing are offered upon release.

Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by jmpman on Thursday May 16, 2024 @05:27PM (#40383419)
Hickman is a politician. I don’t think prisoners should be competing in the free labor market, and especially not for companies run by politicians.
Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by bruceb on Thursday May 16, 2024 @06:13PM (#40383956)
How many (non white collar) felons have you hired?

I think these prisoners should be given consideration but job automatically? No. People often push for policies for which they don't have to comply with.

Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by throwup238 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @07:45PM (#40384723)
> How many (non white collar) felons have you hired?

Four. Worked out great and they were basically free thanks to state programs and tax breaks.

> I think these prisoners should be given consideration but job automatically?

For jobs they're _already doing_ before they're released? Why the hell not? Especially if they're putting their lives at risk fire fighting.

Re:US prisoners are given dangerous jobs. But what if they a... by bruceb on Thursday May 16, 2024 @11:18PM (#40386035)
Well that is admirable (though clearly as you state there was an incentive). I hope you continue.

As I said I am very open to them be considered but I also don't think those who have committed offense against society should have priority over people who have not.