Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by tetris11 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @07:20AM
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oh wow, I made a sweeping generalization - apologies. In single cell, bulk RNA-seq, ATAC, ChIP, I'd say that there are more R packages for the analysis of these omics than Python packages.
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Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by flobosg on Thursday May 16, 2024 @07:44AM
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Python is catching up on single-cell transcriptomics; see AnnData, Scanpy, et al.
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by tetris11 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @10:47AM
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ScanPy/AnnData has been dead in the water for a while now, and most people use Seurat due to its operability with many many downstream extensions
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by flobosg on Thursday May 16, 2024 @12:05PM
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> has been dead in the water for a while now
Both are under active development and are used in several transcriptomics atlas projects, as far as I can tell.
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by tetris11 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:39PM
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Those atlases were established back when Scanpy and Seurat were relatively beta and were still fighting out the tool space.
Look at the packages now for integration, pseudo time, pseudobulk - R (and therefore Seurat) dominates heavily
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by valarauko on Thursday May 16, 2024 @05:45PM
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Disagree - Seurat had first mover advantage with single cell but sucked with larger datasets that Scanpy could handle till the big change in Seurat 5. The preference for either Seurat/Scanpy is incredibly lab specific. That said, Seurat is better documented for sure, but the ecosystem for both is incredibly rich and flourishing.
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by cd4plus on Thursday May 16, 2024 @09:25PM
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yeah, I also disagree with this. It's true Seurat is still heavily used for scRNA/scATAC but I see most new models increasingly being written/tooled for python and based on anndata. Geneformer, scGPT, scVI etc. I wish there was better operability between the scverse stuff and Seurat, but Seurat went their own way from SCE/bioconductor so that's probably not going to happen.
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by tetris11 on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @03:16AM
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To be fair to them, getting anything submitted to buoconductor requires a ton of effort, and the pay off is often less concise code
Re:Enhancing R: The Vision and Impact of Jan Vitek's Maintai...
by _Wintermute on Friday May 17, 2024 @03:28AM
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I have no dog in the Scanpy/Seurat argument, but AnnData is becoming very popular as a data format even outside of single-cell omics.