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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by jjulius on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @12:13PM (#40356786)
If we read the article instead of just the headline, we see that it makes clear that Microsoft has a hybrid arrangement, and that said hybrid arrangement has still resulted in a loss of employees.

>Microsoft, which also enacted a hybrid RTO approach, saw a decline of 5 percentage points.

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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by legitster on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @12:22PM (#40356890)
In that case it's really hard to pin it on RTO.
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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by whatevaa on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @12:48PM (#40357208)
Something like 3 days per week is pretty much RTO.
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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by 0cf8612b2e1e on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @12:50PM (#40357227)
It sounds like it is group dependent. Some managers might insist on firm RTO. Hard to get to that level of nuance from high level numbers.
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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by zem on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @12:38PM (#40357083)
going from remote to hybrid is still RTO, just not full RTO
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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by paleotrope on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @06:07PM (#40360701)
Yeah I mean it doesn't capture the people that moved after wfh was implemented. Hybrid is appealing if your office is 500 miles away.

Claiming it's hybrid is disingenuous imo.

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Re:Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove ... by olliej on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @01:51PM (#40357963)
“Hybrid RTO” is still RTO.

Requiring people to come to the office 3 days a week for no reason other than executives and managers getting off on control is moronic.

“Hybrid” RTO has literally no benefit over RTO except for being able to say “hybrid”.

It forces all of the same problems as RTO - cost and location of living, planning for not being home, massive commute times, etc

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