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Re:GPT-4o by deanCommie on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:02PM (#40350911)
> Humans are more partial to talking than writing.

Amazon, Google, and Apple have sunk literally billions of dollars into this idea only to find out that, no, we aren't.

We are with other humans, yes. When socialization is part of the conversation. When I'm talking to my local barista I'm not just ordering a coffee, I'm also maintaining a relationship with someone in my community.

But when it comes to work, writing >>> talking. Writing is clarity of ideas. Talking is cult of personality.

And when it comes to inputs/outputs, typing is more precise and more efficient.

Don't get me wrong, this is an incredibly revolutionary piece of technology, but I don't think the benefits of talking you're describing (timing, subtext, inexplicit knowledge) are achievable here either (for now), since even that requires HOURS of interaction over days/weeks/months of experiences for humans to achieve with each other.

Re:GPT-4o by thehappypm on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:41PM (#40351122)
I think Alexa and Google Assistant simply are too low-intelligence to really consider it “talking” and not just voice commanding
Re:GPT-4o by jdietrich on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @01:53AM (#40352037)
I use voice assistants and find them quite useful, but I've had to learn the interface and memorise the correct trigger phrases. If GPT-4o works half as well in practice as it does in the demos, then it's categorically a different thing.
Re:GPT-4o by deanCommie on Thursday May 16, 2024 @07:09PM (#40384437)
And so are ChatGPT and Gemini even the newest launched versions.
Re:GPT-4o by throwthrowuknow on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:32PM (#40351067)
Writing is only superior to conversation when weighed against discussions with more than 3 people. A quick call with one or two other people always results in more progress being made as long as everyone involved wants to get it done. Messaging back and forth takes much more time and often leads to misunderstandings.
Re:GPT-4o by sroussey on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:48PM (#40351162)
It depends…

For example, I mentioned something to my contractor and the short thing he said back and his tone had me assume he understood.

Oh, he absolutely did not.

And, with him at least, that doesn’t happen when in writing.

Re:GPT-4o by enraged_camel on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:45PM (#40351148)
>> When I'm talking to my local barista I'm not just ordering a coffee, I'm also maintaining a relationship with someone in my community.

>>> But when it comes to work, writing >>> talking. Writing is clarity of ideas. Talking is cult of personality.

A lot of people think of their colleagues as part of a professional community as well, though.

Re:GPT-4o by cal85 on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @01:51PM (#40357961)
I don't think they've sunk $1 into that idea. They've sunk billions into a different idea: that people enjoy using their vocal cords more than their hands to compose messages to send to each other. That is not a spoken conversation, it's just correspondence with voice input/output options.