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Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by urda on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:56PM (#40350866)
I used to love Tile, but nah this ain't it and I'm glad I got off your product ASAP. I'm not ok with how easily Tiles enable stalking.

You were literally just sued for this https://news.bloomberglaw.com/privacy-and-data-security/tile...

Edit: Hey man I'm not engaging you on this, you chose to opt-out of this safety feature and you've enabled stalkers that target at risk groups like me. Nope.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by crhulls on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:58PM (#40350883)
Yes, we were sued, but we will fight it and win. I think most people on Hacker News know to approach lawsuits with skepticism.

And I feel like many people being critical of us are arguing with emotions and not data. You have to scan a government ID and agree to severe penalties for misusing our product. We have had zero instances of reported stalking from anyone who has enabled the anti-theft feature.

Can you articulate with data why what we are doing is problematic?

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by blincoln on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:51PM (#40351173)
I briefly installed Life360 when some members of a group trip tried to sell the rest of us on it as a sort of emergency personal location beacon, like the colonists had in Aliens. It's one of the most domestic-abuser-friendly apps I've ever seen.

Most of the people your products are being misused to stalk can't even turn off their location sharing because the person who's insisted they install the app/hardware will assume that doing so means they're off spending time with someone else, or whatever their personal paranoid fantasy is. Why would someone being subjected to that contact you? It would just enrage whoever is monitoring their movements when their account was suspended, or whatever your process is.

The people misusing your products in that way don't think they're doing anything wrong, so they're not going to hesitate to have you verify their ID.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @03:45AM (#40352631)
> Most of the people your products are being misused to stalk can't even turn off their location sharing because the person who's insisted they install the app/hardware will assume that doing so means they're off spending time with someone else, or whatever their personal paranoid fantasy is.

Other than location history, is there a big difference between Life360 and builtin iPhone location sharing? To me, that's not enough to put the product in a different category.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by hedora on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:50PM (#40351172)
Since you’re in an at-risk group, I strongly suggest you look into the sorts of devices the CEO mentioned, especially if you own a car (or any portable thing that could hold a pound of batteries, like a bike or a scooter).

Though some things in that space are marketed to stalkers, there are legitimate use cases for such technologies, and therefore the only LTE tracking devices I’ve seen in person were sold at reputable stores.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by gpm on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:15PM (#40350983)
Direct link to complaint (amended version): https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.41...