Re:It's an Age of Marvels
by qlm on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:28AM
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The quantity of chocolate for sale in bulk certainly is surprising. Unfortunately I find American chocolate to be borderline inedible.
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That's like saying you don't like American beer because you tried Bud Light, Coors Light, and Miller Lite and didn't like any of them.
There are a lot of great chocolate makers in the US.
And cheese too! but you will hardly find good cheesemaker at a piggy wiggly (or even in SF more reputable supermarkets). The best i had was one from Hungtinton's Farmer market (WV), easily a top4-top3 goat cheese.
Re:It's an Age of Marvels
by bigstrat2003 on Monday May 13, 2024 @08:23PM
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As someone from Wisconsin, I can say with certainly that you can in fact get great cheese at Piggly Wiggly. I have no idea if they exist in other states though, and if they do the cheese is no doubt worse.
Re:It's an Age of Marvels
by delta_p_delta_x on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:25AM
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> There are a lot of great chocolate makers in the US.
Ghirardelli are decent, but I've been relatively hard-pressed to find decent American chocolatiers otherwise. In general, European chocolatiers are in a different league.
You won't generally find the best in the supermarket--probably either in the US or Europe. There are actually some pretty good more artisanal chocolate bars you can get in many supermarkets to my tastes. But they're still by definition mass market and (often) not as good as what some specialty maker with a small store has.
Best not to think of it as “chocolate” similar to how cheese whiz is only loosely related to cheese.
I promise we have good chocolate here, just stay away from anything labeled Hershey's or Cadbury because it's the malk equivalent of milk.
You're thinking of the cheap stuff like Hershey and other candy bar crap. It's all sugar.
Re:It's an Age of Marvels
by kybernetikos on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:02AM
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I don't think it's just the sugar, Hershey uses butyric acid in its process and some other manufacturers copy them because that's the taste US consumers associate with chocolate. To people used to chocolate made without butyric acid, it tastes like vomit.
More accurately, Hershey is thought to use milk that is partially lipolyzed, and this process generates butyric acid -- which, according to the wikipedia page, is also found in Parmesan cheese. Does that taste like vomit?
I find European chocolate tastes sickeningly sweet, so to each his own.
Re:It's an Age of Marvels
by kybernetikos on Monday May 13, 2024 @07:31PM
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> is also found in Parmesan cheese. Does that taste like vomit?
I don't think it does taste like vomit, but it does smell like it.