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Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by sokoloff on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:50AM (#40334455)
Thought experiment: tell the interviewer you “plan to do the bare minimum at work”.

If that harms your chance to be hired, that’s evidence that the status quo agreement isn’t that.

Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by ToxicMegacolon on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:59AM (#40334548)
I tell the interviewer that "I will go above and beyond to fulfill my duties". For me "Above and beyond" means that I will try to show up for work and will at least pretend to be interested.
Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by ceejayoz on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:55AM (#40334515)
“Oh yes, we value work-life balance. We’re like a family here!”

Both parties lie in an interview. It’s a dance.

Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by smugma on Sunday May 12, 2024 @11:52AM (#40335399)
I often hear and also tell people “take vacation when you want, we will work around it. Don’t work on vacation.” That’s the bare minimum, no gold star for that. But also “working the weekends should be the exception, not the norm.”

This seems normal at most FANGs/big companies. People also have a lot of choice around when to come in, leave, and have a hybrid in office policy. Where are the lies?

Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by lm28469 on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:56AM (#40334520)
As if companies were straight with you lol, they're experiencing their own poison
Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by paulcole on Sunday May 12, 2024 @10:01AM (#40334565)
A job interview isn’t an exchange of true statements. It’s a game with each player having different goals. Whichever side you’re on, your goal is to win.
Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by thfuran on Sunday May 12, 2024 @10:19AM (#40334693)
And as an interviewer, winning means not hiring the sort of person who's going to do the absolute bare minimum, because then you'd have to suffer through working with them.
Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by greenyoda on Sunday May 12, 2024 @11:02AM (#40335047)
Hiring someone who works competently and efficiently for eight hours a day could be better for the company than hiring someone who works twice as long but is not as competent or focused.
Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by sokoloff on Sunday May 12, 2024 @11:59AM (#40335447)
Of course!

My experience is people who have the attitude of doing the bare minimum do not have “works competently and efficiently for eight hours a day” as a target in mind when they say that.

For a lot of engineering work, competent and diligent for 30 hours per week could easily out-perform 40.

Re:Google gave investors a $70B buyback,and laid off 12,000 ... by paulcole on Sunday May 12, 2024 @10:24AM (#40334718)
Yes and your goal also isn’t to hire a person who’s so ambitious and such a go-getter that they’ll hate your dysfunctional organization and leave super fast.