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Re:OpenBSD Desktop by vundercind on Friday May 10, 2024 @01:15PM (#40321420)
I try one or more of the big distros every couple years, and ran Ubuntu as my main for the few years it was good. They’re terrible. Second-to-last time I tried Fedora they’d decided to make Wayland the default for the graphical installer without having a check for which video card you had, so it had a framerate of like 2fps on my quite-powerful hardware. Probably the worst showing any distro’s ever made, for me.

A Linux so small that I understand what everything’s doing is about the only kind I can tolerate. It’s too messy and janky for the hands-off “just works”. Always was, really, I just didn’t recognize how much time I was losing to it until I experienced not having that time-suck then tried to go back—death by a million cuts.

Last time I tried KDE in Fedora, I could make multiple apps crash just by attempting drag & drop onto them. JFC. A program crashes, like, maybe once a year in the world I’m used to. I’m not sure the average has even been that high.

Re:OpenBSD Desktop by DEADMINCE on Saturday May 11, 2024 @12:16AM (#40325920)
> Last time I tried KDE in Fedora, I could make multiple apps crash just by attempting drag & drop onto them.

That's not normal, common or at all representative of the distro or Linux on desktop in general.

Re:OpenBSD Desktop by vundercind on Saturday May 11, 2024 @01:04AM (#40326076)
I’ve run, for meaningful lengths of time, perhaps eight or nine distros on probably twenty of my own desktop and laptops systems plus in some VMs (it’s far and away best-behaved on a VM under Windows or Mac) over a period of 25 years and it’s always been pretty glitchy and crashy. Fewer whole system crashes than, say, WinXP and earlier… but more graphical system crashes or corruptions forcing a restart of the windowing system, which is just as bad if you’re working in a GUI environment. Lots of application crashes or weird glitches, including in major programs like file managers.

I will note that I didn’t realize how much I’d gotten used to working around or working past problems without even noticing I was doing it, until I was no longer using graphical Linux regularly. I am 100% sure I’d have delivered a huge underestimate of the crap I was putting up with, had someone asked me before I switched. Only when trying to go back was it clear what I’d been doing.

Re:OpenBSD Desktop by resource_waste on Saturday May 11, 2024 @04:06AM (#40326743)
This sounds like debian-family things.

You seem a but unreliable too, like you have an axe to grind.

No one else is running into these issues unless they are on debian-family.

Re:OpenBSD Desktop by msz-g-w on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @04:18PM (#40359682)
I literally had a crush yesterday on a fresh Fedora 40 KDE spin after I tried to move a tab from one Firefox window to another. After just a few days of using that system I already accumulated few crashes. These things happen, sadly.