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Re:Model Spec by fragmede on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @03:45PM (#40302109)
are there? it's just information. why can't i get an answer on how to make cocaine? the recipe is one thing, actually doing it is another.
Re:Model Spec by bayindirh on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @04:35PM (#40302509)
Because some information is multi use.

You can use Aspirin precursors to make heroin. You can use homing algorithms to land an egg [0] or a bomb.

I also want to set all information free, but not everyone will be ethical or responsible with it. Because while the idea (of setting all the information free) is nice, unfortunately the idea involves humans.

[0]: https://youtu.be/BYVZh5kqaFg?t=651

Re:Model Spec by drdaeman on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:25PM (#40303753)
> but not everyone will be ethical or responsible with it

Of course not. But here's the thing - if someone deems some information "unsafe", only unethical actors will have it.

Kinda like a beaten (but not solved/agreed upon) gun ownership argument, but on a whole new level, because it's about gun blueprints* now.

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*) Given a state of modern LLMs, there are high chances that a blueprint from an "unsafe AI" may be for a water gun, miss a chamber altogether, or include some unusual design decisions like having the barrel pointing down towards one's legs.

And thinking about the accuracy... I guess, old farts are having the Anarchist Cookbook moment (colorized) :-)

Re:Model Spec by bayindirh on Thursday May 09, 2024 @06:59AM (#40306920)
You're right.

That's a hard problem, for sure. I'm leaning on the "information shall be free" side, but I also know the possibilities, so I can't take a hard stance for it, just because I don't all have the answers to my questions.

Re:Model Spec by option on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @04:45PM (#40302559)
nothing wrong with knowing how to make a bomb or heroin. Obviously wrong making either for nefarious reasons but one can imagine legitimate reasons too.
Re:Model Spec by bayindirh on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @04:51PM (#40302604)
One man's legitimate is other's nefarious. One man's good is other's bad.

Who decides this? Can we apply laws to thoughts or plans? Should we fund research for making Minority Report a reality or increase "proactive policing"?

How to keep people safe while letting all information free? Can we educate everybody about good/bad, legitimate/nefarious so everybody stays on the same page forever? Shall we instrument this education with drugs to keep people in line like the movie Equilibrium?

Questions, questions...

Re:Model Spec by beeboobaa3 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @05:34PM (#40302908)
> Who decides this?

Certainly not the techbros, even though they're trying their damnest.

Re:Model Spec by bayindirh on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @05:59PM (#40303136)
I concur.
Re:Model Spec by mrguyorama on Thursday May 09, 2024 @03:26PM (#40312037)
Who is stopping them?
Re:Model Spec by bayindirh on Friday May 10, 2024 @04:27AM (#40316588)
Maybe the techbros should stop themselves by asking "Why?!" instead of "Why not?"
Re:Model Spec by taneq on Thursday May 09, 2024 @12:42AM (#40305366)
I’ve seen a few vids on building Nerf sentry turrets with vision-based target tracking. That seems like it could be misused.