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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by spurgu on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:32PM (#40292307)
Really? You can find a laptop with the equivalent of Apple Silicon for $3-500? And while I haven't used Windows in ages I doubt it runs as well with 8 GB as MacOS does.
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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by lolinder on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:43PM (#40292396)
Sure, then try this one from HP with 16GB RAM and a CPU that benchmarks in the same ballpark as the M2, for $387:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-i7-11370H-Micro-Edge-Anti...

The point isn't that the MacBook Air isn't better by some metrics than PC laptops. A Rolls-Royce is "better" by certain metrics than a Toyota, too. What makes a device luxury is if it costs substantially more than competing products that the average person would consider a valid replacement.

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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by zlsa on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:26PM (#40294041)
I'm not sure a machine that benchmarks half as fast as an M2 can be said to be in the same ballpark.

MacBook Air (2022): https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-air-2022

Ryzen 5 5500U (CPU): https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-5500u

Ryzen 5 5500U (APU, similar laptop): https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/6751456

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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by wiseowise on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @08:47AM (#40297490)
No offense, but you sound like a garbage salesman at flee market trying to sell his junk.
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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by breuleux on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @01:52PM (#40301011)
> the average person would consider a valid replacement

But what is that, exactly? If you look at all aspects of a laptop: CPU, RAM, SSD, battery life, screen quality, build quality, touchpad, OS, and put them in order of importance for the average consumer, what would be on top? I don't think it's the tech specs.

For instance, I would be willing to bet that for a large number of consumers, battery life is far more important than the tech specs, which means that a valid replacement for their MacBook must have equivalent battery life. You also have to consider things like the expected lifespan of the laptop and its resale value to properly compare their costs. It's not simple.

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