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Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by binenvsus on Monday May 06, 2024 @05:39AM (#40272835)
what is the difference between nix and lix?
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by usrme on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:22AM (#40273351)
This is a fork that grew from https://save-nix-together.org/.
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by koverstreet on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:00AM (#40273589)
That's quite a screed.
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by mhh__ on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:14AM (#40273723)
I don't have anything against people going their own way but having been on both ends of this kind of rumble in open source my resounding opinion is that you literally cannot please the aggrieved side.

It's a mixture of many things — some people are reasonable and just want sensible change, others are dangerous neurotics who need to go outside; both can end up, deliberately or not, using it as blackmail for control — but the moment the ball gets rolling it's pretty much impossible to stop.

I'd bail if a BDFL was an avowed Nazi but the bar for some just seems to be ridiculously low to the point where it's hard to imagine any (offline) social aptitude.

I'm not sure what gave me the impression but even from skimming the nix discourse the community's emergent personality did seem a bit snowflake-ish.

I've heard people make a kind of reverse-conway argument about Rust attracting (auth-) leftists, perhaps for another time...

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by Dalewyn on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:27AM (#40274408)
>BDFL

"Benevolent Dictator For Life", most famously Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu if I recall.

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by WJW on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:37AM (#40274531)
Funny how it probably differs per ~5 years who is the most famous BDFL. I'd have gone for Linus Torvalds as the most famous, or maybe Guido van Rossum.
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by vundercind on Monday May 06, 2024 @10:25AM (#40275066)
I’d never seen Shuttleworth labeled a BDFL until this thread.

Your two are the first who come to mind.

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by Y_Y on Monday May 06, 2024 @11:09AM (#40275567)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth

He even uses `sabdfl` as his handle.

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by vundercind on Monday May 06, 2024 @12:24PM (#40276408)
This self-labeling definitely adds to a… picture I have of the guy, from other practices (like extensive personality testing of job applicants, unusual questions about background)
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by inhumantsar on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:35AM (#40274514)
Guido Rossum of Python
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by HumblyTossed on Monday May 06, 2024 @10:37AM (#40275209)
Most famous is probably GvR...
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by gus_massa on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:58AM (#40274107)
How many commits has each fork that are not in the other?
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by KingMob on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:51AM (#40274672)
Not sure, but afaik, one of the first big changes was to use Meson for building, instead of Dolstra's homegrown build system.

Apparently, the switch to Meson was approved, and coded, ages ago, but Dolstra kept dragging his heels on it.

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by infinisil on Monday May 06, 2024 @10:49AM (#40275352)
I'm afraid the letter spread some misinformation: The meson RFC has in fact not been approved: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/132

For a discussion on this, see https://github.com/KFearsoff/nix-drama-explained/issues/1

Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by KingMob on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @08:11AM (#40284546)
Doesn't that get the timeline backwards? I thought the RFC was opened in response to inaction on the part of switching to Meson, which had been informally agreed-on.
Re:Lix is a modern, delicious implementation of the Nix pack... by infinisil on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @09:09AM (#40285008)
I'm going to quote https://save-nix-together.org/:

> Single-handedly blocking Meson, which has a passed RFC, for five years because he doesn’t know meson but knows his own build system

I don't know about exact timelines, but the letter is definitely wrong about this part.