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Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by pants2 on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:33AM (#40271423)
The ideal state is having the world's superpowers all devoting effort to improving open source libraries, but all catching each others' backdoors and at the end of the day improving security for everyone.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by bee_rider on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:36AM (#40271440)
Web of trust, but all commits must be signed by at least 3 intelligence agencies from rival countries.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by wiseowise on Monday May 06, 2024 @03:15AM (#40272027)
Russia, China, Iran and NK cock-block development for years, because the MR “doesn’t represent their interests”.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by saagarjha on Monday May 06, 2024 @05:13AM (#40272713)
Sounds a lot like how web standards work!
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by mdhb on Monday May 06, 2024 @06:51AM (#40273186)
Apple’s behaviour specifically
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by saagarjha on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:53AM (#40274055)
This is independent of browser vendor
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by protomolecule on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:09AM (#40273680)
You mean like the US blocks all efforts to ban putting weapons in space?
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by bee_rider on Monday May 06, 2024 @12:22PM (#40276387)
Yeah, it is definitely an off the cuff incomplete idea. I think you’d want to structure things pretty carefully. Maybe somehow classify countries into: Hostile, Competitor, Unaligned, Friendly, and Too Friendly.

Maybe just ignore Hostile, try to find enough competitors to ensure at least one will review, require a couple unaligneds and friendlies, and then consider “too friendly” to be the same as your own country.

Like from a US point of view, if the US and the UK agree on something… I mean, that only counts as one point, right? We are too close. But if like half of the EU and India agree, there’s enough competing self-interest to let it through (keeping in mind that it is all open source, nobody wants to be caught doing something sketchy). And if China, the US, and any other non-5-eyes country agree on something, it must be fine. (I picked these countries because I think they are pretty uncontroversial, I’m definitely not going to try and list who’d be in the hostile group, that’s just asking for unproductive political squabbling).

Multiple possible paths, no veto.

But I have no idea how to fix the problem of: some countries look more or less trustworthy from others’ point of view; I think we can easily suggest a plan from the US point of view, but I have no idea how to get everyone to agree on what the actual state of a single source code repository is, since commits have dependencies. Maybe it needs to be more like a package manager.

Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by transpute on Monday May 06, 2024 @02:01AM (#40271597)

  At least 2 rival legal Jurisdictions/Alliances/Spheres
  At least 2 rival state intelligence Agencies per Sphere
  At least 2 rival corporations per Sphere
  TOTAL: 2*(2+2) = 8
Widely used OSS projects are contested spheres of collaboration.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by voiper1 on Monday May 06, 2024 @02:29AM (#40271760)
So the long game is rival countries are secretly collaborating, so we secretly have world peace!
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by glodalitazic on Monday May 06, 2024 @02:59AM (#40271930)
Imagine all war stops and noone knows it
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by peteradio on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:20AM (#40273342)
Nah uh! We are still warring! Israel winks at Gaza, Iran squeezes the U.S.A's ass.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by sneak on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:13AM (#40273714)
Global violent deaths have been trending downward consistently since ww2, even given our new “permanent war” status. We simply just don’t have large-scale wars anymore.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by jonhohle on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:59AM (#40271580)
“Web of distrust”
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by Angostura on Monday May 06, 2024 @03:23AM (#40272081)
Mutually Assured Commitment
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by _kb on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:18AM (#40273329)
Alternatively: mutually assured development.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by lynx23 on Monday May 06, 2024 @04:11AM (#40272350)
Sounds like asking for World Peace.
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by goodpoint on Monday May 06, 2024 @03:11AM (#40271998)
This has been quietly happening for a good while...
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by MaxBarraclough on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:01AM (#40273240)
Re:Alert for Social Engineering Takeovers of Open Source Pro... by Contortion on Monday May 06, 2024 @04:43AM (#40272536)
Mutually Assured Backdoors