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Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by ethbr1 on Sunday May 05, 2024 @04:05PM (#40267764)
Tenure is also a blessing and a curse.

It ensures academic freedom.

But it also ensures someone has limited checks on their bullshit, until they retire.

Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by throw-the-towel on Sunday May 05, 2024 @05:56PM (#40268858)
Isn't mortality supposed to be check-and-balance on the bullshit in science?
Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by userbinator on Sunday May 05, 2024 @06:57PM (#40269390)
Did you really mean mortality as in "exercising the 2nd Amendment", or morality?
Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by mhuffman on Sunday May 05, 2024 @07:12PM (#40269484)
I think they meant mortality as in the old guard that have power and use it to protect their point of view die off and are replaced with a new guard that does the same.
Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by ethbr1 on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:03AM (#40274153)
Definitely mortality.

For those unfamiliar with how org structures work in academia/tenure... (at least, assume this is still true)

Once attaining tenure, your promotion track focuses on faculty leadership positions.

These positions are selected by a combination of administration & faculty. It varies institute to institute, but strong candidates usually have backing from both.

These positions are almost always held by tenured faculty, as non-tenure is looked down upon for historical/political reasons.

Note: You only need to please 2 types of stakeholders: administration & faculty.

Ergo, the path to promotion becomes:

   - Make tenure
   - Politick with faculty colleagues
   - Politick with administration
   - Wait for someone to die
This leads to a weird bent where your bosses (faculty) are selected for their ability to navigate political winds and say the thing that most people agree with, moreso than being disagreeably brilliant.
Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by seanmcdirmid on Sunday May 05, 2024 @06:07PM (#40268957)
This came more from administrators in universities and funding agencies than the professors themselves, who are mostly dragged along for the ride, or go through whatever motions it takes to get promoted or obtain an administrator position. Tenure would actually work more against administrative abuse than for it.
Re:MIT abandons use of DEI statements by mhuffman on Sunday May 05, 2024 @07:11PM (#40269474)
>It ensures academic freedom.

Perhaps it used to, however a tenured professor can easily be "cancelled" today if their academic research or writing strays too far from home base. Frankly, I am not sure it ever did. It seems like it might have always been used more as a threat (by retraction) than anything else.