News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by zeroonetwothree on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @08:42PM (#40218251)
Their actions achieved nothing of consequence. I don't see how that makes them "heroes", even from the point of view of someone that supports their views.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by rufus_foreman on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @08:47PM (#40218294)
>> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence

They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause.

>> even from the point of view of someone that supports their views

What views of theirs do you support, exactly?

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by userbinator on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @09:30PM (#40218533)
There is such a thing as bad publicity.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by rufus_foreman on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:19PM (#40218838)
There's such a thing as bad publicity for Google also.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by M911T on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:44PM (#40219286)
there's also the fact that google will just keep being used by nearly everyone. at the same time, for the now fired employees, having "was a google employee" in their resumes will help them land a new job
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by reactordev on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @12:44AM (#40219590)
So long as they never mention why they are a former Google employee. Instead of a current one.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by bbarnett on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @03:47AM (#40220593)
This is accurate. HR doesn't want protesters on staff, and HR often googles candidates, checks social media, etc.

They may find sympathy at some businesses, but the larger the company, likely the less of that.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by neverokay on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:50AM (#40224062)
What HR wants and doesn’t want.

Got a chuckle out of me.

Look, if you are in the most elite institutions, then you should stand up for something. If they can’t fucking do it, what hope do other people have? So the starving Gaza kid can’t do shit, the Columbia student can’t, and the Google engineer can’t.

And this goes for people on both sides of the issue.

Tricky business.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by camdenreslink on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:43AM (#40223121)
I think it really depends on the company. There are a lot of companies out there with a wide range of values. Some might even consider this a quality that they want in a candidate (it will certainly eliminate them from consideration for some companies though).
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by reactordev on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:43AM (#40223972)
That’s true! Some might even be more inclined to hire you based on your stance on the matter and that you protested. Good point. Just saying it’s not the best light to show why you were let go. I stick to the canned “We were over-resourced and so there were layoffs” is an easy blanket statement.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by userbinator on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @03:55PM (#40228523)
I doubt the majority of companies will consider it desirable even if they happen to be in political agreement with you --- because people's beliefs change over time.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by Simulacra on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @09:55PM (#40218698)
Tell that to Kristi Noem...
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by andsoitis on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @01:42AM (#40219893)
> They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause.

You almost got it. We are talking about them… but not about their cause.

And therein lies the gold: they found a cause that they can use to scream look at me me me.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by bbarnett on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @03:45AM (#40220574)
Sadly for them, I don't know any of their names, couldn't care who they are, and their protest will vanish from the news cycle in a few hours ... forever.

I suspect this is the same for everyone, even those who may be discussing Google's response.

So they may have wanted a "me me me" response, or they may have legitimately wanted to raise awareness, but it's a pretty large fail for a now strongly narrowed career path.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by gitfan86 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @02:29AM (#40220189)
They are virtue signalling. They don't expect these actions to actually help Palestinians. They expect these actions to increase their social status with their woke social network.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by faeriechangling on Thursday May 02, 2024 @10:32AM (#40236746)
I feel "Virtue signalling" isn't really fair when they have so much skin in the game here. That's evidence of sincerity rather than disingenuousness, agree or disagree with them.

Unless the definition of virtue signalling is so expansive as to be meaningless, where every act of protest which is not anonymous is virtue signalling.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by gitfan86 on Thursday May 02, 2024 @05:26PM (#40241538)
The consequence of their actions is that they receive high social status from people with similar politics and Google makes zero changes to their contracts with Israel. And that was obviously going to be the result of these actions.

If you want to attribute their actions to a genuine desire to help the Palestinians, that is fine.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by faeriechangling on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:47PM (#40249687)
You know, accusing others of virtue signalling can itself be a form of virtue signalling.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by gitfan86 on Friday May 03, 2024 @05:43PM (#40252726)
Ok, but how is that relevant to the Google employees motives?

Are you just changing the subject?

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by ParetoOptimal on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:20AM (#40222803)
> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence.

They accomplished me never responding to Google recruiter emails and informing others in my network to avoid Google where they can be fired for happening upon a protest at work.

Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by robertlagrant on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:49AM (#40223207)
That might make them Google's heroes.
Re:Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file... by colpabar on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:00AM (#40223355)
I would say google is more than okay with that.