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Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @02:56AM (#40208003)
A Chinese name is consistent with the timezone - alternatively Australia, Russia etc.

Here is my speculation.

I would look at the test framework - the attacker needs the complexity of it to hide away the attack and it is first thing he publishes - probably has been planned from the very beginning.

This is a homemade thing based on something called "Seatest".

How common is Seatest? Not that common as far as I can tell - maybe someone can correct me?

Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by Tarq0n on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @04:25AM (#40208502)
UTC+1-3 are west to middle European time zones.
Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by thrdbndndn on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @04:54AM (#40208687)
UTC+1/3 is NOT consistent with China's timezone.
Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @05:33AM (#40208950)
I was referring to the time zone of +8 used in the git commits mentioned here:

https://www.wired.com/story/jia-tan-xz-backdoor

The Mystery of ‘Jia Tan,’ the XZ Backdoor Mastermind

The thwarted XZ Utils supply chain attack was years in the making. Now, clues suggest nation-state hackers were behind the persona that inserted the malicious code.

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At a glance, Jia Tan certainly looks East Asian—or is meant to. The time zone of Jia Tan’s commits are UTC+8: That’s China’s time zone, and only an hour off from North Korea’s.

Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by defrost on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @05:42AM (#40209008)
> or is meant to.

Indeed. If it's nation state and years in the making then the idea of all the commit times being faked isn't a stretch.

Hell, even five-eyes (UK+AU+US+etc) could seek a linux backdoor and use Perth, Australia (GMT+8) timezones or have a submission bot in the UK that just commits at preset time from preset IP proxy.

Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @07:11AM (#40209672)
I would guess the guy that maintained the Jia Tan identity was working out of Australia.

The time zone is consistent with Western Australia and the work starts by "branching out" a not widely used Australian test framework.

The actual attack is probably done by someone else.

Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by lyu07282 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @05:25AM (#40208895)
What is seatest? Can you elaborate? That's the first time I heard that mentioned
Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @05:34AM (#40208956)
https://github.com/keithn/seatest

Which Jia Tan turns into "s-test".

Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by lyu07282 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @06:04AM (#40209153)
They used test driven development for the backdoor development? Kind of hilarious ngl
Re:Deep Dive into XZ Utils Backdoor – Columbia Engineering G... by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @07:11AM (#40209667)
Yes. Test is a perfect place to hide an attack - reviewers pay far less attention to test code than the (what they perceive to be) production code.