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Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by areoform on Friday April 26, 2024 @11:29AM (#40170657)
It feels like everyone has short memories. Net neutrality abuse did indeed happen, a few notable incidents,

— Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile slowed down YouTube + Netflix traffic. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-04/youtube-a...

— Verizon throttles so much that the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s ability to provide emergency services during the California wildfires. "The fire department experienced slowed down speeds on their devices and had to sign up for a new, expensive plan before speeds were restored." https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/verizon-throttle...

— CenturyLink blocked content to insert their ads, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/centurylink-bloc...

Claiming that nothing happened is false. A lot did happen. A lot of people have been fighting very hard to preserve internet access and the internet has been degraded.

Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by lupusreal on Friday April 26, 2024 @12:29PM (#40171295)
From that firefighter article:

> Even when net neutrality rules were in place, all major carriers imposed some form of throttling on unlimited plans when customers used more than a certain amount of data. They argued that it was allowed under the rules' exception for "reasonable network management." But while such throttling is generally applied only during times of network congestion, the Santa Clara Fire Department says it was throttled at all times once the device in question went over a 25GB monthly threshold.

> Even if Verizon's throttling didn't technically violate the no-throttling rule, Santa Clara could have complained to the FCC under the now-removed net neutrality system, which allowed Internet users to file complaints about any unjust or unreasonable prices and practices. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's decision to deregulate the broadband industry eliminated that complaint option and also limited consumers' rights to sue Internet providers over unjust or unreasonable behavior.

Soft caps for "unlimited" plans and content-neutral QoS don't seem like net neutrality violations as I understand it. If they started slowing down one internet service while allowing another on the same plan to run at full speed, that would be another story.

Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by nonethewiser on Friday April 26, 2024 @01:43PM (#40172140)
the bloomberg article is paywalled. it doesnt event exist, as far as im concerned.
Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by screature2 on Friday April 26, 2024 @02:20PM (#40172509)
I think the bloomberg article was summarizing a study utilizing the wehe mobile application:

- i believe this was the study: https://wehe.meddle.mobi/papers/wehe.pdf

- the app and the data has continued to be collected and is also available in bigquery https://www.measurementlab.net/blog/wehe-bigquery-announceme...

edited to format bullets

Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by dredmorbius on Saturday April 27, 2024 @10:32AM (#40180250)
Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by HumblyTossed on Friday April 26, 2024 @02:29PM (#40172598)
> — Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile slowed down YouTube + Netflix traffic. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-04/youtube-a...

They still do... Get on AT&T and hist fast.com You are pegged at 4Mbps

Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by nashashmi on Friday April 26, 2024 @05:37PM (#40174601)
I get 35 mbps in nyc on att for fast. Com
Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by paulddraper on Friday April 26, 2024 @03:37PM (#40173220)
> Verizon throttles so much that the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s

Net Neutrality does not prevent throttling. Bandwidth + data volume limits still exist.

Rather, NN prevents throttling or preferential treatment based on content/services.

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Likewise, the CenturyLink example has nothing to do with NN either.

Re:FCC Votes to Restore Net Neutrality Rules by nashashmi on Friday April 26, 2024 @05:42PM (#40174643)
Centurylink did not block internet to display an ad. They blocked internet to display a notice so they could comply with some regulation. This was a bad move. But wont be prevented by Net neutrality.

Data throttling during heavy load wont violate NN either.

And cell phone networks have long throttled video data connections even during NN. Not much of an issue nowadays because of robust networks.