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Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by atonse on Thursday April 25, 2024 @05:42PM (#40163406)
Why is it a cause for celebration?
Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by coolspot on Thursday April 25, 2024 @05:45PM (#40163449)
Less people -> less congestion, less pollution, less finite resources consumption .

With automation we don’t need that many people as in the past.

Infinite growth is not sustainable.

Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by atonse on Thursday April 25, 2024 @05:59PM (#40163590)
To offer a counter-point, doesn't less people = less workforce over time, less economic activity, less competition, less able-bodied men for your military, making you more vulnerable compared to other nations with better birth rates?

Doesn't seem like a slam-dunk case but rather one of tradeoffs?

I get that infinite growth isn't sustainable, but shrinking isn't the only alternative, correct? It can be slower rates of growth.

Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by coolspot on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:35PM (#40164353)
Not necessarily, if you have automation and AI.

> less workforce over time

Manual workforce can be replaced by robots. We don’t need 4M+ uber drivers if we have 4M Waymos.

> less economic activity, less competition

Not if you compensate productivity with automation and AI. Work of 100 people done by one.

> less able-bodied men for your military

Ideally, you should have most of your army be robots and semi-autonomous systems. Military action should only cause equipment loss on your side and not personnel loss.

You still can have growth, just not the population growth, but productivity and quality of life growth instead.

Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by tivert on Thursday April 25, 2024 @05:44PM (#40163441)
> Why is it a cause for celebration?

Anti-humanist environmentalism?

Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by PlunderBunny on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:02PM (#40163619)
I understand you’re not necessarily taking a stand one way or another on “anti-humanist environmentalism”, but surely it’s possible to be both in favour of declining population numbers for the environmental and other benefits, _and_ not be anti-humanist at the same time?
Re:U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low by moffkalast on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:00PM (#40163599)
More planet for the rest of us. /s