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Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by jnsaff2 on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @05:25PM (#40149882)
> HashiCorp always felt like a company made by actual engineers.

IDK about this, in 2018 I was in a position to pay for their services. They asked for stupid amount of money and got none because they asked so much.

Can't remember what the exact numbers were but but it felt like ElasticSearch or Oracle.

Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by afavour on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @05:30PM (#40149941)
Inability to price things correctly sounds exactly like engineer behavior to me…
Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by freedomben on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @07:57PM (#40151462)
Same. I wanted to pay them for their features, but the pricing was such that I actually thought it was a gag or a troll at first and laughed. When I realized they were serious, I was like Homer fading into the bushes.
Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by raffraffraff on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:06AM (#40154001)
Same. And I didn't feel like we were getting anything for that crazy money aside from than "support" (which management wanted, pre IPO, to make a bunch of security audits seem easier ). We preferred to stick with our own tooling and services that we built around Vault (for example) than use the official enterprise stuff. Same goes for terraform today: I don't feel like we need Terraform Cloud, when we've got other options in that space, including home grown tooling.
Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by kensey on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:31AM (#40155699)
Vault's client-based pricing was (is) the worst thing about selling it. When I was there, nobody in sales liked it except the SEs and account reps dealing with the largest customers (and those customers loved it because it actually saved them a substantial amount of money over other vendors' models like per-use or per-secret). All the customers except those very largest ones hated it. The repeated response from those who believed in the client-based pricing model, to those of us pointing out the issues with it, was essentially "if your customers don't like it, they must not understand it because you aren't doing a good enough job explaining it".

What I thought we really needed was a "starter/enterprise" dual-model pricing structure, so that smaller customers could get pricing in some unit they could understand and budget for, that would naturally and predictably grow as they grew, to a point where it would actually be beneficial to them to switch to client-based pricing -- but there seemed to be a general reluctance to have anything but a single pricing model for any of our products.

Re:IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal by tecleandor on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:14AM (#40156015)
But it's even more expensive now! There's no limit!